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General Discussion1k games are harder than 3k.

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Jacked

    whats this thread about? TLDR

    Riguma Borusu

      its about vagina person having perpetual pms and dunning kruger

      Suck my tiny curry dick

        3K GAMES ARE HARDER THAN 6k. COOOOOOOKIE HOLDING PARMA BACK!!!!!!!

        SayingPleaseHelps

          I don't think vagina is a relevant factor here. This level of entitlement and blindness can be easily observed in any category of human beings. It just requires a stupid person or severe lack of basic knowledge about reality or a learning disability.

          @HanYolo Or all of the above. And I mean to the point where a person comes into an 18 page thread with an obvious Dunning-Kruger title and asks about a TLDR. Ever heard of actually reading? Or taking an educated guess? It's legit way faster than waiting for a non-troll response.

          Inflation Agent

            *Commenting just to keep this thread alive and going for the meme*

            Meme

              Having climbed from 1.2k to 3.1k, the hardest games in that range are in low to mid 2k (2.1-2.4k) followed by the fine line between 2k and 3k (2.9k).

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              Jacked

                nah i mean if this thread lasted for 18 pages there must have been some really good points being made. can someone summarize? thanks

                Riguma Borusu

                  ^you would think that but no it mostly boils down to:
                  1) Hey I am OP I think i am correct in stating this thing completely unrelated to reality
                  2) OP, you're full of shit, if the system worked as you suggest it works, there'd literally not be anybody above 1k
                  3) Hey I am OP I think i am correct in stating this thing completely unrelated to reality
                  4) ...

                  Vertoxity

                    No point, people are just mentally challanged as usual. Nothing has changed and it never will.

                    cartel

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2jdtQCz0OA
                      damn mentally challenged people
                      p.s. is just joke vertoxic dont angery

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                      Vertoxity

                        I'm a new man now, anger is behind me.

                        kappa

                        Ubermensch

                          Honestly I dont get why the lower mmr players always cry they have bad teammates. You guys hardly push your advantages just wanna farm till 6 slots and dont wanna end.If u think you r diff u wud have 90%+ winrate. Usually if any 3k+ player plays on 1k id they own. SO if ur 3k u shud own ur gmes as a support/core.

                          unbreakable spirit

                            Happy too see that hanyolo actually is getting good at the game 😀👍

                            Vertoxity

                              Honestly I'm 4.5k atm and I dont think I could own with a support in 1k mmr.

                              cartel

                                use mic to yell go (very important since 1k players dont understand kill potential)
                                pick earthshaker/sandking/willow/grimstroke/ogre

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                                Vertoxity

                                  All the heores you mentioned could be played as pos 1/2 even when starting as a support and coinsidering the amount of farm 1ks are capable of acquiring I'm positive towards the fact I'll end up outfarming them eventually. (not to mention Grimstroke/Ogre/Sand/ES scale decently into lategame anyways)

                                  Farzad

                                    @Smile Protecto

                                    I agree she is wrong about her skills,but that doesn't make you less dipshit trash weeb shit head,garbage.

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                                    boring personality

                                      https://www.dotabuff.com/players/296904164
                                      ive picked pos4 ck and pos4 zeus on this acc, even ogre. if ur good enough u will win :p

                                      ETd

                                        ^I’ve made support CK, support AM, support Razor, and support Sniper work when I was grinding from 2K to 3K on this acct my main. Just to back up his point. If you’re good enough, you will win

                                        Jacked

                                          Happy too see that hanyolo actually is getting good at the game

                                          where's this coming from?
                                          you're normal skill like me anyway.

                                          SayingPleaseHelps

                                            @2k dog

                                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2jdtQCz0OA
                                            That's some good shit. Amount of anal ISISing is outright impressive.

                                            @HanYolo

                                            nah i mean if this thread lasted for 18 pages there must have been some really good points being made. can someone summarize? thanks
                                            Can you read? I mean a day passed, you could have skimmed through this thread 15 times or actually gain full understanding couple of times. Do you always rely on others to do even the most obvious things?

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                                            Jacked

                                              TLDR luuul

                                              Jacked

                                                dudes a got a stick up his ass lmao

                                                Celine

                                                  jacked still doing his epic funny "baits" i see

                                                  VISHNU

                                                    3k owns 1k pretty hard. I played some games on my friend's account & had there over 80% win-rate. I think there was not a single game when I wasn't godlike at one moment (I played around 15 games there). All the games I lost were either because I underestimated enemies, or I raged. There was only 1 that I lost because enemy had 5k mmr booster.

                                                    Personally I think MMR is not only about skill, but also the way you behave. Whenever I'm focused I stomp 3k bracket ultra hard (I was 4.5k 2y ago, then after break I got this account). Some games are play way over the bracket, other I just play so bad like 2.5k player because of tilt/raging. I'm sure if I was emotionally stable in the game I would be close to my old MMR, and not lose as much. Psychology means a lot in this game.

                                                    Väinämöinen

                                                      I won pos 5 solo support underlord with a void carry that couldnt land a single damn chrono in 1k.

                                                      you can win 1k games by simply directing your allies where to go and what to do. to them a 3k talking map movement is like receiving help from divine intervention by god himself. they will listen and do as commanded (for real, no joke)

                                                      '96 Neve Campbell

                                                        TLDR
                                                        I rightly suggest that winning in 1k is as hard as winning in 3k because u have useless teammates which hold u back in 1k whereas in 3k ur team is competent. Everyone proceeds to tell me that im wrong and that i deserve 1k despite the fact that they all have no experience of playing 1k and I have doubled my mmr since I made this thread and am now 2k anyway.

                                                        Also IDK why you all bumped this necro thread, let it die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWL90wryyOw the reason why I have stopped playing dota has nothing to do with the fact that I have had a realisation about my capability (since I was still climbing), but rather that there are better games out atm and 7.19 is growing fucking stale as this thread

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                                                        Feachairu

                                                          guys wtf lol

                                                          honestly i actually got interested too about your opinion later when you reach 3k,will you climb to 3k-4k as easy you go to 1k-2k?

                                                          since imo 3k4k5k ppl are potatoes

                                                          '96 Neve Campbell

                                                            honestly i actually got interested too about your opinion later when you reach 3k,will you climb to 3k-4k as easy you go to 1k-2k?

                                                            I really dont think I have the quality to make it to 3k let alone 4k. 3k solo is harder than 3k party, being critical about myself i would say i belong in mid 2k. Ive already lost a couple more solo games maybe because Im not good enough to solo stomp at 2k.

                                                            you can win 1k games by simply directing your allies where to go and what to do. to them a 3k talking map movement is like receiving help from divine intervention by god himself. they will listen and do as commanded (for real, no joke)
                                                            this is largely untrue. 1ks wont listen to what you want them to do and the only real way to get them to use the map is by pushing towers and taking objectives by yourself. 1ks are crap and this goes to the other team as well who wont usually group up and prevent my advances if im playing a hero with reasonable escape. Usually I try to take towers and farm the enemy jungle whilst planting wards that my support has kindly bought me if possible. In general if you explicitly explain to them how map control works and that they should go where we have vision then you can force them into playing aggressively and applying pressure, otherwise you will just have to solo carry and hope ur team dont feed. Maybe sometimes you will be blessed with 1 or 2 teammates who arent complete rubbish and will follow ur lead but its rare.

                                                            Im very much of the opinion that Clinkz is the ideal solo carry in 1-2k. You can take him mid to make the most of the lane farm and xp. he dominates the mid lane and translates well into late. He has high pick-off potential which is very important in low mmr since the other team doesnt normally group up for fights, he has good escape and to an extent invisibility is invincibility in the bracket, and he will win a 1v1 with any ranged hero. His skillset is also very good for fast solo push which is necessary because there is little guarantee that ur team will push after fights and ur carry usually will be dead after a team wipe. I think I have a 90/100% win rate with clinkz in this mmr and its no coincidence.

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                                                            SayingPleaseHelps

                                                              @OP

                                                              I have doubled my mmr since I made this thread and am now 2k anyway
                                                              You have +11 solo ranked games won since the start of the thread. That is +275 MMR at most. I will make the extremely charitable assumption of additional +10 wins lost in the unparsed matches. That is 525 MMR gained. Unless you are 2k by buying a booster who disabled public match data, you are not 2k. You are also a shitty liar. And still have not learned anything. The thread will probably get bumped until you admit your original claim is wrong.

                                                              And that is the TLDR for this thread. OP continues to pathogically lie in order to make themselves look good, fail all the time (just like they fail at DOTA) and still parades their confirmed learning disability around like that is some kind of a virtue.

                                                              has nothing to do with the fact that I have had a realisation
                                                              will forever remain accurate about OP since they are incapable of realisations in general. Fake and sad.

                                                              Also

                                                              honestly i actually got interested too about your opinion later when you reach 3k,will you climb to 3k-4k as easy you go to 1k-2k?
                                                              rofl.

                                                              eL Trapo

                                                                I think you should stop blaming others and give excuses to yourself why you lost, what you need to do is start learning from those mistakes and help your team win.

                                                                From a guy with 2 to 3 months exp in DOTA 2. :)

                                                                johnny cage era

                                                                  https://www.dotabuff.com/players/418429289/matches?date=3month&enhance=overview

                                                                  Op, here's a 2k account shared by me, a 3.8k dude and a person whose rank was guardian 2 before we started boosting this acc. He still plays on this, but look at the winrate for the past 3 months. This is all the evidence you need.

                                                                  Feachairu

                                                                    i see

                                                                    kowareta

                                                                      i didnt follow the thread but for proving 1k games are harder than 3ks i must say i played 3 games on my guardian 3 acc yesterday , and i raised my medal into guardian 5! so fucking hard games 1k games :)))))) dont know wtf happened but after i picked monkey and kda like 30-3 , gaben gave me another medal :)))))))))) so fucking hard

                                                                      Vertoxity

                                                                        Just got the 900 MMR account. It's in the LP but I'll get it out quickly.

                                                                        We'll see how hard it is for a 4k mmr player to get out of 1k. Maybe 1k games are indeed harder than 3k? Stay tuned and find out!

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                                                                        SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                          Do you mean you are going to get two low MMR accounts to 3k over the course of OP complaining about their team?

                                                                          Vertoxity

                                                                            ^

                                                                            Most likely. D:

                                                                            SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                              This goddamn MMR system that keeps all the good players down by ALWAYS giving them moron teammates while getting Ramzes and Miracle- smurfs to play on the enemy team while they struggle with basic map awareness! The depths Valve sinks into to promote Artifact. There are no words.

                                                                              Vertoxity

                                                                                https://www.twitch.tv/vertoxity

                                                                                hope in, im streaming from that acc.

                                                                                EX Crusader player

                                                                                  Damn these 1k games are really hard

                                                                                  '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                    The 2 solo ranked games I played today are prime examples of why this thread was made tbh. I did more damage than all 4 of my teammates combined in both games. They pick 0 impact heros and feed constantly. It really is a 1v9 out there when ur teammates are literally walking creeps for the enemy core to farm.

                                                                                    Feachairu

                                                                                      y u just dont post on everygame is winnable,same stuff

                                                                                      varjager

                                                                                        IMO you should stop playing party games and focus on how to win solo queue, you are guaranteed to win 50% of your games so you just need to figure out how to win 2-5% more and then you will steadily climb.

                                                                                        J-Man

                                                                                          Bruh I remember having this mental mindset that it's always 1v9

                                                                                          Those were the dark ages and I can sit comfy at 2.5k where I know I belong and enjoy myself.

                                                                                          Confidence is half the battle in these types of games. Bitching about every little thing doesn't make you better. Reflecting and learning from your mistakes only let you climb.

                                                                                          '96 Neve Campbell

                                                                                            Well fun times I guess. First time since i made this thread ive lost 3 straight solo ranked games. Last one was completely my fault as well so feels bad lol

                                                                                            EX Crusader player

                                                                                              I agree. My games are super hard. Like, I can't believe how hard 1k mmr is. Holy shit. Almost wanted to commit suduku because I didn't manage to get 50 perma essense shifts my last game. That's how hard they are.

                                                                                              blinker

                                                                                                You are 1k because you are 1k and you will stay 1k until you are no longer 1k meaning you are not 3k but you are 1k and you are now trying to lie about not being 1k when you are in fact still 1k and you think you are better then other 1k's when u are just as 1k as everyone else in 1k so stop being a whiny little bitch and get better at the game if you have a problem with being 1k

                                                                                                SayingPleaseHelps

                                                                                                  @ OP

                                                                                                  The 2 solo ranked games I played today are prime examples of why this thread was made tbh. I did more damage than all 4 of my teammates combined in both games. They pick 0 impact heros and feed constantly. It really is a 1v9 out there when ur teammates are literally walking creeps for the enemy core to farm.

                                                                                                  Is this https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4235789261 jungle Alchemist game with lowest hero damage on the team also a perfect example of why you made this thread? Because guess who was mad about useless 0 impact teammate in that game. Not you.

                                                                                                  It's all statistics, you need to be good all the time, not sometimes. As long as you allow yourself to justify your bad performances by your good ones you will remain a 1k shitter.

                                                                                                  @ Feachairu

                                                                                                  y u just dont post on everygame is winnable,same stuff

                                                                                                  Coz OP wants to justify their failures, not just vent their frustrations.

                                                                                                  Feachairu

                                                                                                    stop accusing already lol,dat is stupid