General DiscussionNew CK meta?

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Man u are so fukin weird

Everybody buying bf on melee carries is not new.

Holy fuck ROFL

AC -5
Deso -6
rift -7
lvl 25 talent -7
total of 25 armor reduction
and with a Solar Crest from support that's -35 phew

Stacking minus Armour has diminishing returns. Just sayin

You guys can see that he bought deso and MoM less than half a minute before the game ended, right?

of course they dont

Ding ding ding mothafkers. You have to realize if the game is a stomp, that deso is the most commonly bought item in such games.

i am more concerned by not-buying armlet and going for drums and then bf (in that order)

More info on the match is in the dotabuff guides https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/chaos-knight/guides?page=2

CK's team has decent push with Enigma and Venge, with Mirana having good wave clear, therefore CK was more push orientated. CK illusions are screwed over by PA's evasion, while also have no way of dealing with Treant ult. Not to mention Kunkka is excellent at dealing with illusions that are clumped up together like CK's and OD does a ton of bonus damage to illusions.

^so u think it is ok not to make armlet in that match? But instead to get items that give only damage and no armor/hp versus PA and LC?

I never said that, I just guessed the reasoning behind CK's item choices. CK's build was very push orientated, plus he got armor from AC.

^AC was bought only 5 min before the end -_- and as u said with mirana and enigma and vs, they had good wave clear, so push build would be a build to hit building and mkb and bf are not particularly anti-building items.
Anyway strange match, enemy builds are even worse :(

I don't know what goes on in their heads, they're like 1k MMR higher than us. I just see that CK went very push orientated build against an enemy team with relatively weak push.

so i agree on the pushing oriented lineup on the side of CK and the illusion-counter line-up by the enemy team. Then drums before armlet seems really like fighting early and take an objective afterwards, also the armlet seems a bit underwhelming considering it is mainly bought to boost your illusion (they have all the +stats, but dont lose hp) and therefore ck tried to race the pa in terms of farm. He had full bf shortly after pa had her yasha.
i havent watched the match yet, but also bf boosts your aoe dmg when enigma hits a good blackhole.
after all, yeah... i dont like this "every melee core gets a bf"-trend.

yeah one game = meta for sure man

^oh please, like we have any nice topics to discuss here at all... this forum is running full mode "what is the cap for calibration" threads and my thread is as close to reflecting builds as possible