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General Discussionwhat's with people rushing aghs on the supports?

what's with people rushing aghs on the supports? in General Discussion
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    I see it alot in my games, the supports get some money in teamfight, and immediately buy a club/point booster, trying to get aghs first item

    aghs is really expensive and have bad buildup, ad usually doesn't provide much immediate value, unlike items such as force stuff, spirit vessel, blink and so on

    and still, I constantly see aghs first item on the likes of AA, lich, witch doctor and such

    am I missing something?

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    Teppir

      It's in the normal skill bracket where people have no idea what they are doing

      Shou

        they all thought they were playing kotl and didnt notice that they picked a different hero

        Scarifar

          They get blinded by the aghs benefits and fail to see the downsides of not picking up other utility items first. As a support main, I am appalled by this.

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            I'm also a support main

            I think I picked aghs on core more times than supports, and 83% of my true sight games are supports

            I do pick ALOT of spirit vessel, I simply adore this item

            And if I'm not picking vessel I found myself going alot of times with high mobility of rushing blink into force stuff

            Väinämöinen

              normally people stop doing that past 3k.

              though i have seen stuff like brown boots aghs doom offlande in 3.3, even brown boots aghs necro mid after the nerf or brown boots dagon nyx.

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                So I haven't missed something?

                And I can definitely see nyx staying with brown boots getting blink/eul/meme hammer

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                Cheap Laugh Guy

                  They dont full-heartedly want to support. Gotta have some fun with Aghs instead.

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                    Fun with aghs? On lich and AA?
                    it has literally 0 additional visual effects. How would it contribute to a "fun" aspect?
                    Those are two of the most boring aghs in the game

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                    Herald Pride

                      it's depend on situation i think, with lich agha help my core kill enemy heroes. for example : https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3763607548
                      yeah it's normal skill game

                      Potato Marshal

                        That lich build :sick:

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                          Why would you get kaya on a hero which basically have free mana?

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                            I got a game with a pos5 wd rushing ags with zero wards ,farming like a pos1.And guess wat he was a divine3 player.kappa

                            pingwin

                              They're bad.

                              glhf/ggwp

                                imho aghanims on aa is the only item i want to see on that support, screw all other items. you know aa, lich and wd are the 3 supports that come to mind that do NOT need a blink (unlike rhasta or lion)....
                                and the thing you are missing might be that aghanims on those 3 heroes you mentioned might be situational pickups against heroes like alche or meepo or void.

                                ETd

                                  Crusader 0 is roughly mid 1K, Crusader 5 is low 2K, right?
                                  In that bracket, there are rarely any true supports. Just 4th cores/5th cores that occasionally buy wards.

                                  Can't Buy Culture

                                    glimmer + force + solar crest > aghs in most situations. I can propel name a few which I would go aghs first or second item, and thats pretty much it. Kotl Is one of them

                                    Story Time

                                      the only support that should build aganim is alchemist (kappa diem baby)

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                                        What about kotl?

                                        Story Time

                                          What about kotl?

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                                            I can see kotl building aghs first

                                            Story Time

                                              ^nope, kotl does not build aganim first
                                              https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/keeper-of-the-light/guides

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                                                It seems to be pretty inconsistent if he builds aghs or force stuff first

                                                Jacked

                                                  It's honestly considered greedy. But rushing is a game changer when you get that valuable item. Aghs on supports is game winning. Don't listen to the people who don't know this game.

                                                  Herald Pride

                                                    i build kaya if enemy had mana drain ability such am or invoker

                                                    FeelBadMan

                                                      2018 aghanim first? :V

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                                                        I love seeing rhasta with Brown boots, club, staff and blade at 30 min mark, with zero wards bought. Same goes with lion and wd. I hate those ”supports”...

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