why are you guys posting your game results? These are not "fresh" scores, and even if they were, its the quality of your opponents/allies that are a big factor as well.
Here is another question, how have you felt about the quality of your matches, weere they even? Were there some players out of their depth? Or was everyone on a similar level? Especially for those who solo queue..
For me the teams composition is pretty much same as it used to be: usually one bad player, 2 average and 1 "pro". The difference is that people seem to try harder, so the quality of the games increased in my games at least.
Ok. guys can you stop arguin about how matchmaking balance is `bad`. Actually it isn`t , there doesn`t exist game in the world when matching 5v5 ppl can be always 100% even it`s a fact ppl are not robots.Sometimes someone is drunk other time tired and play more bad than usually,also ppl pick heroes they can`t play and other team pick their best heroes they can play and there is that huge difference and that can happen.Also ofc someone is getting outplayed it`s a fact and where at start all lanes start bad, outplayed + outdrafted usually game is hard and can make huge difference in kills what we call stomp etc. But look how many competetive games are even? Maybe 30% or 20% ,others 70% + games also someone make disadvantage at start also outdraft opossite team outplay and also can happen stomp like 30-6 in kills or smth so plz. stop argue about how bad ranking is or anything else (WORK ON IMRPOVE YOURSELF). If you play on pro lvl next 50-100 games whatever rating you have you ll be 5k+ for sure I guarante you. Ppl who are 3500-4000 rating I see they cry cos their first ranked matches are not all at 0 rating starting ,wtf you guys want?!It`s your bracket and your skill lvl. You wanna play noob dota 1500 games and than in 10 games to be in pro bracket lvl? Oh cmon deserve it if you can,stop cry.Why you think is fair to Dendi and you have same rating at first ranked match?! Improve yourselfs you unthankfull creatures.
4990 after 11 matches. Won 5, lost 6...
@Terrible,
Most of my matches were stomps, one was actually a nice comeback made by my team. 3 games out of 12 were fairly even iirc.
@bogidot0
"Oh cmon deserve it if you can,stop cry.Why you think is fair to Dendi and you have same rating at first ranked match?! Improve yourselfs you unthankfull creatures."
Cuz is exatacly the first ranked match....
games played: 2,101
win rate: 51.78%
solo Q rating: 3968, won 7/14 games, all picks + 2 captains
I played support in all of those games
very good games I have to say, with exception of two games with retard carries that leave ez lane and go farm jungle for no reason, no try hard picks so far, no swearing, nice gg after game, games are pretty much even with players of equivalent Doto skill to mine, volvo big + for new system!
9 wins streak
each win give me about 22-26points, i have 3689, so if i want to get in high elo i just need about 92victory easygoing????
someone explain that for me plz?!?! how ppl can exepect to be on high elo?
@atum
my problem is i dindt play alot normal matchs, cuz i played the most time inhouse matchs, and now decide to play ranked games and got stuck in a LOW ELO. Played 11games won 9, each game give 22points. So to be on high ELO i just need a 92victory ? So do you think this systeam is good??
@saboia this is bcos ur uncertainty is not that high, meaning they don't think you should be in very high ELO like 5.5k or something . If you are really good, then you should be stomping the games in ur current mmr. 20 kills 1 death 20min gg etc.
Just played a game where there were no wards till the 20th min, it was a nightmare
1 game played, 3445 rating with 617 uncertainty. Random-ed hero and just yolo
From what I have seen all people posting are mostly above 4200, since only 1% of people are supposed to be at that level then I am wondering what dendi has got 9000?
Suddenly all people in 1% of the population,seems legit
@atum
never here in this thread i said i am GOOD, i am just showing this systeam dont give perpective to ppl change they ELO.
@melody
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 486
most game is stomp, that is the problem in this type of ELO (random games), so is a kind hard in this type of ELO you get a diference of 90win to change your ELO
@Vaikiss`742
thats my point, if you are playing with retard the most game, how you can be able to get a 70streak win to change a ELO??
Why they cant make a simple systeam like HoN systeam?
how the fuck can u expect to ever win a solo vs dendi (for ex)
YOU CANT, hence why u dont get the chance ti play with him
OWN guys at your own mmr and increase your mmr abruptly! if u just win then that just means they are (positively thinking) just below you (aka u a bit higher) and end up gaining FEW points.
The fact that you're on dotabuff means that you're more active than probably 50% of the dota players. And probably the average dotabuff player standard is about the top 10-5% mark. That being said, I'm sure some people have still been disappointed with what's come out for their score.
For every poster here, there are thousands of shit lords in the trench that are utter trash. I'm not remotely awesome by any legit standards, but my MMR puts me in the top 15% because there are SO many people who SUCK at this game
@saboia
You don't need 92 victories to get very high, because not all victories increase your rank! Also not all defeats reduce your rank, so you can get to your desired rank with 50% winrate too, if you do well in all these games.
Here's my ranking evolution so far:
--> First game loss (Elder Titan):
solo_competitive_rank: 3482
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 719
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 9
--> One more loss solo (Jakiro), rank actually went up!
solo_competitive_rank: 3495
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 689
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 8
--> Won game (Tiny), rank went down! Yeah, I played like shit but had good team! :D
solo_competitive_rank: 3439
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 683
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 7
--> Another win (Riki)
solo_competitive_rank: 3494
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 647
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 6
--> Another win (Jakiro)
solo_competitive_rank: 3508
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 610
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 5
--> win with disruptor
solo_competitive_rank: 3543
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 564
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 4
@saboia
I don't need to stomp to get higher mmr.
I have this, some feeding spreeding, playing without map awareness cause teammate flaming before creep even out.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/419872883 And my mmr is ~3.8k.
thats very interesting, u went down a whoppign 56 rating after WINNING a game.
in the game u played its not even cos u played that bad, a kda of 1.57 (average is 2.30) on a ganker/utiltiy tiny. this confirms my theory that KDA plays such a huge part that sometiems getting a good kda for urself becoems the objective over winning.
@679
If you watch the replay, you'll see I actually played like shit. After I picked it, I realized I must go mid, I was 0-5-0 at min 15 something, but after a good team fight I started to snowball with the rest of the team. CM and CK actually won us the game.
But it still shouldnt be possible for the system to measure how you play other than look at the final scores (kda and such). The final kda in that Tiny game might be below average but there are a lot of close games where you play utility/ganker/support, feed and end up with low kda but win anyway cause you created space for someone else, in this case the ck.
Didnt notice the jakiro game, that one is just a mystery. How the fuck do you gain rating when you lose AND have a bad kda?
3200. i won 6 out of 10
1st match 5458 lost
2nd match 5500 won
Solo queue only:
- 4702 after 10 games
- started with 0/3
- ended up with 7/3
Game stats:
3 - 5 - 5 - L
3 - 11 - 15 - L
8 - 5 - 7 - L
7 / 1 / 10 - W
3 / 8 / 15 - W
9 / 5 / 17 - W
11 / 8 / 18 - W
2 / 1 / 7 - W
2 / 3 / 11 - W
23 / 3 / 22 - W
why are you guys posting your game results? These are not "fresh" scores, and even if they were, its the quality of your opponents/allies that are a big factor as well.
Here is another question, how have you felt about the quality of your matches, weere they even? Were there some players out of their depth? Or was everyone on a similar level? Especially for those who solo queue..
I played every game until now in parties (not the same party). All games were pretty easy, even though in 1 or 2 parties I had weak players in my team
For me the teams composition is pretty much same as it used to be: usually one bad player, 2 average and 1 "pro". The difference is that people seem to try harder, so the quality of the games increased in my games at least.
Ok. guys can you stop arguin about how matchmaking balance is `bad`. Actually it isn`t , there doesn`t exist game in the world when matching 5v5 ppl can be always 100% even it`s a fact ppl are not robots.Sometimes someone is drunk other time tired and play more bad than usually,also ppl pick heroes they can`t play and other team pick their best heroes they can play and there is that huge difference and that can happen.Also ofc someone is getting outplayed it`s a fact and where at start all lanes start bad, outplayed + outdrafted usually game is hard and can make huge difference in kills what we call stomp etc. But look how many competetive games are even? Maybe 30% or 20% ,others 70% + games also someone make disadvantage at start also outdraft opossite team outplay and also can happen stomp like 30-6 in kills or smth so plz. stop argue about how bad ranking is or anything else (WORK ON IMRPOVE YOURSELF). If you play on pro lvl next 50-100 games whatever rating you have you ll be 5k+ for sure I guarante you. Ppl who are 3500-4000 rating I see they cry cos their first ranked matches are not all at 0 rating starting ,wtf you guys want?!It`s your bracket and your skill lvl. You wanna play noob dota 1500 games and than in 10 games to be in pro bracket lvl? Oh cmon deserve it if you can,stop cry.Why you think is fair to Dendi and you have same rating at first ranked match?! Improve yourselfs you unthankfull creatures.
"also ppl pick heroes can`t play"
That's the difference between Ranked and Standard MM :)
@ bogiscrub
hey trashbag, could you start using a better translator?
4990 after 11 matches. Won 5, lost 6...
@Terrible,
Most of my matches were stomps, one was actually a nice comeback made by my team. 3 games out of 12 were fairly even iirc.
3036 with 5 games remaining
won til now 6 out of 6 games and my rating is currently 3800 (dont know where it started but first time i checked was 3.5k)
played also 2 ranked in party (me + 1). 1 was pretty ez and the other 1 i got dc'd 3 min in the game bcause fuck valve and my internet provider
@bogidot0
"Oh cmon deserve it if you can,stop cry.Why you think is fair to Dendi and you have same rating at first ranked match?! Improve yourselfs you unthankfull creatures."
Cuz is exatacly the first ranked match....
@Vroksnak, I told u an ez 5000.
lol retards it doesnt matter if u win or lose
kill death ratio doesn't matter either
games played: 2,101
win rate: 51.78%
solo Q rating: 3968, won 7/14 games, all picks + 2 captains
I played support in all of those games
very good games I have to say, with exception of two games with retard carries that leave ez lane and go farm jungle for no reason, no try hard picks so far, no swearing, nice gg after game, games are pretty much even with players of equivalent Doto skill to mine, volvo big + for new system!
won 5 losses 2
rating : 4510
I had good support players in my team but so bad mid (who think they're good) many games XD
4.9k, won 1 out of 5. GG
i lost my last 2 games but i got 40 kills in total and my rating increased
9 wins streak
each win give me about 22-26points, i have 3689, so if i want to get in high elo i just need about 92victory easygoing????
someone explain that for me plz?!?! how ppl can exepect to be on high elo?
@saboia are u gonna continue to spam this crap?
lol, last 3 wins gave me 0 rating. currently around 4250 zzz
@atum
my problem is i dindt play alot normal matchs, cuz i played the most time inhouse matchs, and now decide to play ranked games and got stuck in a LOW ELO. Played 11games won 9, each game give 22points. So to be on high ELO i just need a 92victory ? So do you think this systeam is good??
@saboia
u have +700 matches and barely 50% winrate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect <<
@saboia this is bcos ur uncertainty is not that high, meaning they don't think you should be in very high ELO like 5.5k or something . If you are really good, then you should be stomping the games in ur current mmr. 20 kills 1 death 20min gg etc.
Just played a game where there were no wards till the 20th min, it was a nightmare
1 game played, 3445 rating with 617 uncertainty. Random-ed hero and just yolo
^ u see it works retards like u get matched with other retards so retard bracket is created for retards play in
From what I have seen all people posting are mostly above 4200, since only 1% of people are supposed to be at that level then I am wondering what dendi has got 9000?
Suddenly all people in 1% of the population,seems legit
Most people who are active here are well above average
@atum
never here in this thread i said i am GOOD, i am just showing this systeam dont give perpective to ppl change they ELO.
@melody
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 486
most game is stomp, that is the problem in this type of ELO (random games), so is a kind hard in this type of ELO you get a diference of 90win to change your ELO
@Vaikiss`742
thats my point, if you are playing with retard the most game, how you can be able to get a 70streak win to change a ELO??
Why they cant make a simple systeam like HoN systeam?
@deadshot obviously because people with low scores won't bother posting their score. I'd say most noobs have never heard of dotabuff.com
plenty of noobs here who like to talk big but shut up when they see their mmr. lowest who dare to post probably around 3k+.
how the fuck can u expect to ever win a solo vs dendi (for ex)
YOU CANT, hence why u dont get the chance ti play with him
OWN guys at your own mmr and increase your mmr abruptly! if u just win then that just means they are (positively thinking) just below you (aka u a bit higher) and end up gaining FEW points.
The fact that you're on dotabuff means that you're more active than probably 50% of the dota players. And probably the average dotabuff player standard is about the top 10-5% mark. That being said, I'm sure some people have still been disappointed with what's come out for their score.
Deadshot
For every poster here, there are thousands of shit lords in the trench that are utter trash. I'm not remotely awesome by any legit standards, but my MMR puts me in the top 15% because there are SO many people who SUCK at this game
system is again shit i play again with people who are from russia and they dont use bkb so fuck valve!
omg i don't use bkb either what a bummer FUCK VALVE!
@saboia
You don't need 92 victories to get very high, because not all victories increase your rank! Also not all defeats reduce your rank, so you can get to your desired rank with 50% winrate too, if you do well in all these games.
Here's my ranking evolution so far:
--> First game loss (Elder Titan):
solo_competitive_rank: 3482
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 719
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 9
--> One more loss solo (Jakiro), rank actually went up!
solo_competitive_rank: 3495
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 689
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 8
--> Won game (Tiny), rank went down! Yeah, I played like shit but had good team! :D
solo_competitive_rank: 3439
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 683
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 7
--> Another win (Riki)
solo_competitive_rank: 3494
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 647
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 6
--> Another win (Jakiro)
solo_competitive_rank: 3508
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 610
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 5
--> win with disruptor
solo_competitive_rank: 3543
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 564
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 4
@6_din_49
you probally going to be stuck in the 3000-4000 for ever.
I am talking about that, the system dont give you perpective to grow ELO.
@saboia
I don't need to stomp to get higher mmr.
I have this, some feeding spreeding, playing without map awareness cause teammate flaming before creep even out.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/419872883
And my mmr is ~3.8k.
@saboia
If I give my account to Dendi, probably would get me to 5k ranking in less then 100 games.
@saboia cry more retard
there is always fucking room to grow in mmr u just need to play against good players and beat them
but u play in shitty servers so no shit u end up in ur 3k mmr ratings
@6_din_49
thats very interesting, u went down a whoppign 56 rating after WINNING a game.
in the game u played its not even cos u played that bad, a kda of 1.57 (average is 2.30) on a ganker/utiltiy tiny. this confirms my theory that KDA plays such a huge part that sometiems getting a good kda for urself becoems the objective over winning.
@Terrible
I garantee you, you have no idea if what you are saying is true or not, ur just making assumptions.
@679
If you watch the replay, you'll see I actually played like shit. After I picked it, I realized I must go mid, I was 0-5-0 at min 15 something, but after a good team fight I started to snowball with the rest of the team. CM and CK actually won us the game.
On the other hand, look at the lost jakiro game.
But it still shouldnt be possible for the system to measure how you play other than look at the final scores (kda and such). The final kda in that Tiny game might be below average but there are a lot of close games where you play utility/ganker/support, feed and end up with low kda but win anyway cause you created space for someone else, in this case the ck.
Didnt notice the jakiro game, that one is just a mystery. How the fuck do you gain rating when you lose AND have a bad kda?
I am actually amazed, my MMR is
competitive_rank: 4133
competitive_rank_uncertainty: 759
calibration_games_remaining: 9
I am really amazed
Before anyone cries, let's see how much it changes after 100 games.
http://i.imgur.com/2fdLeWq.jpg?1
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