General DiscussionGrimorum's Guide for Invoker

lol no

^ agreed

everything on invoker is situational

how does refresher orb work on invoker?

Very indepth guide, however I don't think many guides will ever be able too help people with invoker. The characters requires ridiculous amount of practice. Still a good guide.

How does refresher work on every other hero?

i find refresher on invoker completely useless

theres much better items u can get

like sheep stick , necro , sheevas , euls , forcestaff even something like mkb for bonus dps with maxed wex could work out better

invoker mostly used for initiations with tornados and disables during the fights hes not damage dealer

Yeah fuck damage ^

Right, having the aoe burst dmg to kill 3 or 4 or even 5 heroes from full in 3 seconds is totally useless. No one should ever want to do that.

Can you create a guide for right click invoker?

go do it against any team that knows how to play

and then talk about ur bursts

I have 50% winrate with Invoker
I usually go Aghanims Force Staff Refresher
Sometimes I go directly Refresher
It's the most fun with refresher
Tornado 2 Meteors 2 Def Blasts GG :D

wow 50%, i shall now download all ur replays and learn!

good job <3

Refresher is a last slot item. To be able to use refresher productively, it requires a ridiculous amount of practice and muscle memory. None of the pros can do it because none of them expect a 60 min game. Furthermore, dota is about learning more than one hero.

Hex is much better because is easy to use and doesn't require 1700+ mana. I, on the other hand, play invoker only to use refresher, so I find all sorts of shortcuts to make the item work in 35 minutes.

not too be mean or smth, but srsly you think too high about ur self grimboy.

V-GOD confirmed.

^ omg it's v-god

in your presence we're humbled in your wisdom we thrive

Hex is better 99% of the time

Hex is better between 20-50th min. Around 60th minute, refresher is better, but pros will never practice refresher cause they don't expect such a long game.

Posted on dotafire instead of playdota? Tsk tsk tsk...

the refresher is for situations like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnYVzRLQQc

@Zushbb : Heres a rightclicking invoker guide XD http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=168574544

@On topic: Thanks a lot grimorum. Friggin awesome guide and yeah I think this guide is for those who are more advanced. Not very suitable for beginner invoker players. This should be a pretty good guide to learn from :)