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General Discussionnecrobook strat OP or just caught off guard?

necrobook strat OP or just caught off guard? in General Discussion
BlackXargon

    Patch 6.79 I've seen 3 pro matches who went for pushing/necro book strat and they win all 3.
    - Navi vs liquid 2x
    - Mineski vs Imp

    Was the opposing team just caught off guard?

    I think this strat will be a bit critical on the Navi vs Alliance match up in this kind of context
    - is necrobook an OP strat?
    - can this be simply negated by picking anti push supports (i thought IMP did a good job on windrunner + crystal maiden)

    Totentanz to The King: M ...

      It's actually an OP strat. Just because of that Pugna suddenly became a top pick when he was an outcast. The fact that they can't be countered by Midas or HotD anymore means you gotta have a chen or an ench in your team who are now easily countered by BH. And you can just ban them as well. It's quite a popular strat now.

      Bankai

        They can be countered by diffusal blades, Navi was close to win the game against necrobooks. But i wont disagree with you on the rest

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        Totentanz to The King: M ...

          Diffusal blade works with charges while necro doesn't and there are not even that many heroes who are supposed to get diffusal in pro games. Maybe PL Mirana or Jugg but all 3 are rarely picked anyway.

          Bankai

            Mirana was picked yday almost in every game. Both sides. They had TA and Mirana with diffusals.

            EDIT: All in all its a popular strat. But i dont believe that it can give you more than 1 win in a series of 5 games. They can counter it by banning certain heroes etc etc

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            Luxon

              and then they pick medusa that kills all necro creeps with one ulti and receives 3000 pure damage in her mouth.

              bum farto

                Its tough, I came across it and almost won.... http://dotabuff.com/matches/365139778

                j$

                  @havoc
                  i think your silencer should have gotten refresher and yall could have one. was he ulting well?

                  whoji

                    I learned it the hard way.
                    53-16 and we lose

                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/362928170

                    SMELLY APE

                      ^hahahhhahaha, volvo plz nerf

                      cartographer

                        I remember a time back in WC3 where there was a limitation of 1 Necrobook per team.

                        [Lk].Zano

                          If this becomes a thing Medusa/Gyrocopter + Omniknight will be seen more often.

                          Theorycrafting mode off.

                          emerikax

                            necro mmmmeta <3 hopefully one day average game will end in 15minutes

                            bum farto

                              @Dotafreak Its Aron someone who I feel is a decent player so I would assume so though I don't remember. The Agha upgrade might have been a option to burn a bit of the mana.

                              I don't feel this strat is too OP as it lends itself to a push strat and the tendency is for a team to die a lot trying to do this however that being said the higher kill count still might not win you if they are forcing a push this strong.

                              Qii

                                Even morp and weaver buy necro http://dotabuff.com/matches/367272271

                                Nemesis

                                  Truth can u add me and invite to ur stack sometime please :x

                                  Born

                                    void with necro/manta/agha. wreck havoc in sphere.

                                    白色的牛

                                      Look at the poor kda they got on mirana, they have no idea on how to play mirana lol
                                      Just kidding lol

                                      Necrobook has always been an op item, but they are expensive and high risk too.... as well for a team push to work you need at least two or three of them, that means it have to be your team carries's first big item... and they are pretty weak level 1

                                      All that said, you cannot pick teams that have no counter pushing power like what alliance team deed in TI 3, pick a furion dog counter push lane and buy back all the time, killing all fun of dota lol

                                      Born

                                        buyback has been nerfed to ground since.

                                        Nemesis

                                          Truth plz

                                          Born

                                            forgive his forgetness.
                                            prolly busy saving the world. ain't that the truth?

                                            Nemesis

                                              He'll probably reject anyways but at least answer me :(

                                              Born

                                                don't see why would you reject unless you dislike someone on a personal level.

                                                Nemesis

                                                  reject cuz of low skill ;P

                                                  Born

                                                    honestly if I were to reject you, that would probably be because of your shit avatar.
                                                    srsly wtf is that shit. anyways enough off topic from me