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General Discussionso current meta for sniper is max shapnel first ?

so current meta for sniper is max shapnel first ? in General Discussion
Low Expectations

    The reason people pick sharpnel is to zone people out mid, works really great in organized teams since you are allowed to bottlecrow but in pubs idiots will take your bottle, hide your shit, write "gg mid no gank 5 min in" .

    Soultrap

      It's not new meta, in fact "max your nukes first" - is very basic knowledge of the game. If it looks new for you, consider uninstall. =)

      Satellizer

        going 0 4 4 on sniper is pretty common.

        but shrapnel is the most underrated skill in the game
        48 dmg/s for 9 seconds, 33% of that damage to towers

        King of Low Prio

          in skirms you can max shrapnel first because you can play a bit closer to fights. In pubs people are idiots and the best they can be used for is a meat shield

          Soultrap

            Can't wait for support snipers... you know... those with arcane boots and wards.

            P.S. Hell, I'll do it!

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            Satellizer

              AdmiralBulldog was playing offlane sniper

              so, who knows

              Hopeless

                you don't always max shrapnel.

                Lets take two games for example:

                When loda mid laned against H4nni in the XMG tournament, he wen 0/4/4. The range allowed him to do his work, and he didn't have to worry about losing int before level 6 to OD.

                When Sniper offlanes or goes mid against a melee hero, such the CIS sniper against Newbee's DK mid, shrapnel was the more appropriate choice to max first.

                Both are viable, but shrapnel has been ignored for a long time, so seeing it back in style is catching peoples attention. A big part of the current meta game for early-game is to be aggressive, zone enemies, and push towers. Shrapnel is good at those things.

                Dire Wolf

                  I go 0/4/4. You can max it out if mid or if you want to push towers. I almost never sniper mid and don't usually care about pushing towers over farming.

                  whoji

                    I watched the replay match. the guy did 4 1 1 for mid sniper. bottle is the key for spam shapnel.
                    they pick naga specifically to protect sniper in teamfight, via naga ult.
                    sniper didn't buy any tanky item early to mid game.

                    Wink

                      I build 0-4-4 when I don't need to push very hard or if I'm against something like OD which will make it impossible to spam Shrapnel. I go 4-1-3 when playing against melee mids or want to push really hard.

                      Soultrap

                        Guys! It works! Support sniper is legit! =)
                        http://dotabuff.com/matches/548467474

                        Gustaphos

                          ^ lol!!!

                          2 funny

                          Hopeless

                            it is good to remember shrapnel's range is absolutely insane and gives vision, and as a result in now synergies very well with sniper's ridiculously buffed attack range.

                            King of Low Prio

                              being a support does not only mean having bad GPM and holding wards in your bags

                              Soultrap

                                @Sampson
                                I placed about 50 wards in that game, bad GPM obviously because I didn't stole farm from carry.

                                And look at my total damage. It's not bad at all. Sniper doesn't need any items, if he just sits back and spams his ultimate (10 seconds cooldown btw), he doing OK job.

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                                whosyourdaddy

                                  No.

                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/548528051

                                  Headshot and range too stronk.

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                                  Soultrap

                                    No.

                                    We all know how cruel can be early game for little Sniper. He can be countered and shut down. But who cares if they shut down support? And this support can eventually farm some items and transition into something more powerful in late-late game(I spent too much gold on wards, because ward bitch I am).

                                    fffffff

                                      @BraToS

                                      sry but your opponents aren't verified players
                                      besides, that's a pub game

                                      shrapnel rules!!

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                                      whoji

                                        @saga.

                                        you are damn right. next time when we face verified players, remember to max shrapnel first .

                                        chopchopchop

                                          There's no fixed build to build the sniper, just go with what you feel works for the game and thats the build.

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                                            I've said this before. Offlane sniper is the new meta

                                            Fakovnik

                                              "It's not new meta, in fact "max your nukes first" - is very basic knowledge of the game. If it looks new for you, consider uninstall. =)"

                                              what nuke ? we are talking about shrapnel

                                              Pilot

                                                Bloodstone on sniper lol

                                                Soultrap

                                                  ^Yes, if you want to spam Assassinate (375 mana every 10 seconds), you need decent mana regen just for that.

                                                  Numberwang

                                                    Everyone knows that as a sniper player you just sit back and pew pew them until they're low enough to finish with the ult

                                                    Soultrap

                                                      @Mr. Knightside
                                                      This is what carry sniper does, because he wants to secure kills for himself. I'm talking about support sniper here. Supports must let carry get the kills, support sniper must spam his ultimate whenever he has vision on enemy.

                                                      whoji

                                                        ^bloodstone to spam Assassinate.
                                                        lol
                                                        that's so fun. can not wait to try this.

                                                        Faded

                                                          yes snipers, please go shrapnel so i wreck you mid while you fail CS and the then get blamed on for sucking because you picked sniper

                                                          :D

                                                          but seriously lol this sniper maxed shrapnel and kept trying to destroy towers, but he was completely useless otherwise

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                                                          Satellizer

                                                            mariana trench

                                                            Ples Mercy

                                                              @ I dont troll i pudge:
                                                              Acually max shrapnel works. Its pretty much standard in the russian scene.