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epsik-kun

    I can guarantee, that every goddamn lost game I have was lost due to russians. For example this one:
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/551084407
    That russian idiot forgot that he had four turkeys on a team and decided to end the game in one teamfight with a big advantage he had.
    btw, wp to enemies.

    Soultrap

      I told you many times to buy Bloodstone on Medusa. But you still go for this stupid Linken. I bet that Skywrath mage bought Rod of Atos just to break your Linken and troll you.

      Don't blame Russians, it's all your fault.

      epsik-kun

        @Soultrap
        You didn't got the idea for sure. Btw, if I made Bloodstone, I would have the same KDA score as turkeys had and lost game at ~25 min mark.

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        Born

          making a bloodstone on ricing carry like dusa is borderline stupid

          waku waku

            why hate your own kind

            epsik-kun

              All right I get it - I'm bad at joking that's why no one gets my jokes. I AM that idiot russian, you got it? I was the only russian on the Dire side.

              waku waku

                i'd rather not see anyone give attention to that stereotype, it's offensive and only bad people judge a nationality by stereotypes
                i was born in ukraine and now i live in russia but of course nobody would talk shit about ukrainians since they're "innocent people that russia is invading without a reason" and everyone is forgetting that kiev was russia itself just a few centuries ago

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                Izerea

                  Hey don't worry about it, a loss is usually not just one person's fault.

                  Oh, and I have had several games in which my Russian teammates were good. In fact, in one game I was paired with two Russians. I was worried, I have to admit. However, look at this:

                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/486513007

                  Me (Bounty Hunter) and that Rubick and Slardar took down a team of 5. 3V5 with no hard carry and we won. Ahh those were a couple of good Russians...

                  Point is, Russians can very well be good players, people just don't say anything about the GOOD ones.

                  *TA bailed right away, and PA bailed about 1/4 or 1/3 of the way in*

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                  epsik-kun

                    Well I'm trying to point out several things here:
                    1) That was really a game thrown by my teammates, that were complaining about my Medusa for the whole game while feeding in every possible way (like giving away a FB in form of double kill). Though I must say that Silencer while not being too good, still made quite a nice job supporting me for the first ~10 min;
                    2) My enemies were so-so. Only Pudge and Clock deserve mentioning;
                    3) Only possibility of wining was coming from me, who managed to get essential items in borderline time;
                    4) I actually got quite ahead of anyone in the enemy team and we managed to get middle racs;
                    5) We could actually finish them by the next attack, but in the fight my teammates made a freaing ton of mistakes:
                    -when I went on the HG and attacked Clock, Luna and Skywrath, my teammates for some reason decided to leave me and go for Pudge with Aegis and useless Furion;
                    -there was no Global Silence;
                    -Razor for some reason decided to go another lane.

                    Despite that this defeat is still MY fault. Because I was the only one who could win this game. Not only I could actually kill my opponents in that teamfight if I switched off Split Shot earlier and not got hit by Clock's Blade Mail 3 or 4 times, but the whole idea of a fight was wrong.
                    It could turn out much better, if I either:
                    a) Waited 10 minutes for a Roshan and then solo wipe enemies while turkeys act as a meat shield;
                    b) Farmed sixth slot and solo wipe enemies in the same conditions.

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                    Dizzy

                      ༼ つỎ͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼_Ỏ͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼ ༽つ

                      epsik-kun

                        Is these are tears?

                        Izerea

                          ༼ つỎ͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼_Ỏ͖͈̞̩͎̻̫̫̜͉̠̫͕̭̭̫̫̹̗̹͈̼̠̖͍͚̥͈̮̼͕̠̤̯̻̥̬̗̼̳̤̳̬̪̹͚̞̼̠͕̼̠̦͚̫͔̯̹͉͉̘͎͕̼̣̝͙̱̟̹̩̟̳̦̭͉̮̖̭̣̣̞̙̗̜̺̭̻̥͚͙̝̦̲̱͉͖͉̰̦͎̫̣̼͎͍̠̮͓̹̹͉̤̰̗̙͕͇͔̱͕̭͈̳̗̭͔̘̖̺̮̜̠͖̘͓̳͕̟̠̱̫̤͓͔̘̰̲͙͍͇̙͎̣̼̗̖͙̯͉̠̟͈͍͕̪͓̝̩̦̖̹̼༽つ Lol. Anyway, I guess the best thing to do is just to move on from that game and start fresh.

                          Soultrap

                            @epsik-kun
                            You said nothing about your rapier! Game was won already. Your team destroyed mid barracks and then, all of sudden you decided to throw and buy rapier. And what you gonna do, when you have rapier? Dive tier3 1 vs 4 and attack clockwerk when his blade mail is ON! Obvious decision! GG, Medusa! GG!

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                            epsik-kun

                              @Soultrap
                              Tell me pls, are you serious or is it some kind of bad trolling?

                              Soultrap

                                I'm serious. Why rapier? Why not MKB? You know that Luna will build butterfly eventually. And when you have rapier you must be super-cautious. Assumptions like: "Ok, I'm going in, my team will definitely back me up" - does not work when you have rapier.

                                Honestly, every time I see someone with Sacred Relic, I pray: "Please, let it be Abyssal or Radiance". Some people just feed rapiers on purpose, you know...
                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/550058840

                                Neme

                                  I had Russian in few game before, he bough bkb. Then he was constantly silenced by bs, and when we asked him, to use that bkb, he told, that he can't, because of silence. Then i figure out what is all whine about Russians. THEY are fucking stupid. I don't get it, they don't go to school, they don't educate, what?

                                  epsik-kun

                                    @Soultrap
                                    Well, if you're not joking... I say, you need to improve your feel of a game, seriously. Rapier Medusa was the only goddamn way to win this game. If you think, that "game was won" after destroyed racks you're terribly wrong. The only reason why we managed to destroy them is a huge mistake of the enemy team which allowed me to face them one after another, not all at the same time. We would lose in 5vs5 open battle at that time, because a presence of my teammates is barely noticeable. Moreover, I've been about to reach my lvlcap at that time, while most of enemies were underleveled compared to me. Prolonging a fight at such situation is a loss of a big advantage.
                                    And in that fight on HG we had very big advantage, I think even simple Global Silence could changed result of that battle to the opposite one. That was the best moment where we could finish this game, buying MKB wouldn't solved anything. And thinking that "Luna is going to have BF eventually" is a wrong way of thinking. She won't buy it if she's dead and Tree is down.

                                    You're judging from same point of view which make you think that BS and Radiance are useful on Medusa, while you can't distinguish thrown games where you could win with almost any bullshit you come up with and games where both teams have equal conditions.

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