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Faded

    pardon my scrubness but i didnt know projectiles could be dodged with smoke

    which ones in particular ?

    any other place i can find useful info like that?

    sano

      any single target projectile as far as I know
      for example: auto attacks, nukes like VS Magic Missile, Tinker's HSM

      Satellizer

        there are some projectiles that can't be dodged

        lich's chain frost, alch's stun, necro's heal, pl's spirit lance, pa's stifling dagger, ogre magi's ignite

        quick edit to add the rest

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        Faded

          are those the only ones?

          sano

            I think so. Sven's stun used to be undodgeable but I think it changed recently.

            edit: I think Skywrath's Q isn't dodgeable but I'm not sure

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            Manobo

              Alch stun cant be dodged. I've seen smoke used in pro games to sometimes dodge tower hits when they are backing out a teamfight under a t3.

              Miku Plays

                wow wtf wtf i didnt know smoke could be this useful other than the purpose of ganking and going to rosh pit >.<

                Satellizer

                  you can use smoke to hide from non-hero units

                  like brewmaster's ult and summons in general

                  Aerium

                    *brewmaster uses ult"

                    some other time sucker!

                    BoJack

                      satellizer i just dodged spirit lance with blink dagger + ghost walk

                      [Lk].Zano

                        ^ Yeh, that was changed recently. I think in 6.79

                        BenaoLifedancer

                          u can dodge sven stun with mirana leap but its almost impossible :p (unless u play her a lot)...

                          BenaoLifedancer

                            and i'll give u guys another tip ^^ probably one many of u didnt know
                            u can block/dodge skills like laguna blade as u do with fast use of bkb by activating ghost scepter right on time (just as it impacts)

                            Faded

                              makes sense for skywrath, im pretty sure it'd hit

                              dodging a nuke with a ghost scepter? never seen it

                              with bkb yes ive seen it, mirana dodging stuns yes i do that benao i already told you lol

                              my mirana stats dont magically stay up there on their own

                              Hopeless

                                Another Pro tip:

                                If you time the toggling of Medusa's split shot (and its not easy), you can dodge similar to the way you can use manta to dodge.

                                To be more specific, there is a 0.1 second "transformation time" when the toggle is activate. During that time period, Medusa is invulnerable.

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                                Satellizer

                                  you can dodge a lot of projectiles with "transformations"

                                  like lone druid:

                                  Faded

                                    ^ wow lol that would piss me off if i was chasing ld

                                    Miku Plays

                                      lone druid so OP.. now i wanna try him

                                      BenaoLifedancer

                                        it was way easier to time it with ld before... now its weird and super slow...they can countercancel back :p

                                        and the ghost scepter shit i was like wooooooo fucking imba shit and lol'd hard... and i was like.. anyone else saw that? and did that rly happen? xD... the guy wanted to suicide as he noticed he was laguna blade or smth like that so he activated ghost right on time and the skill vanished on the outher shell of the ghost :D (ofc losing 0 hp)

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                                        XoD^

                                          ^ Puck can dodge laguna blade's damage too :D
                                          Not sure if alch can, although iirc activating his ulti lets you dodge projectile stuns.

                                          @Concede, didn't that change in d2? I remember that being the case back in dota1, but I thought I remember people mentioning that it got removed though :/