General DiscussionBest and Worst last hit animation

Viper is pretty easy has good cancelling mechanics and the sound makes it easy
PA has a decent animation, Anti-Mage's is even better though
Bristleback I find odd, he does damage before I expect

Weaver is pretty horrible, the delay just seems so long
Drow's backswing is awful I agree, I dislike Clinkz in a similar way

easiest last hitting is probably clock or luna for me, worst is definitely weaver and bristle

Mirana's animation is very weird but once you get used to it, OP harass

I forgot about clinkz, if you don't use searing arrows it's so hard.
Bristle's is indeed weird, the sound doesn't even match the hit. It's like the sound begins when he already hit.

Weaver is pretty annoying, and using geminate attack to last hit feels like such a waste.

I actually really like Weavers, once you get use to him it's really easy to get last hits you couldn't before with geminate attacks.
I also like TA's for some reason that I don't know.

The worst for me would be Lycan since I've only played him once and I am really bad at him :(

treant protector is the easiest.

jakiro's last hit animation is slow-ass.

On a side note I find that most often when you need to put in your best last hit skills, it's when you have a dual lane and both of you want cs

AM and Jugger are by far the smoothest in the game I think, the slicing noise also helps that. Drow at 6 becomes a breeze but early its super tough.

Nobody has mentioned sniper, think that animation is pretty epic too for last hits and denies, just his base damage is so low that timing is more important.

Worst must be razor, Lina and zeus are crap!

+treant but he is best used for dem deny's.
I too noob to land weaver lasthits I report myself when i play him.

Bristle's is messed up because they reduced his attack point without changing the animation but he's actually not bad to last hit on once you get the timing down.

Worst by far is razor. I have no idea where in his attack animation the attack actually happens. I can't last hit for crap with him before like lvl 3, which is really too bad cus I'm not horrible overall with him otherwise.

Sniper's animation is fine but he does little dmg early and I find it hard to last hit with him.

Good ones are gyro, super fast animation and attack, easy last hits. Troll warlord's is nice too ranged or melee. Easy to time.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Attack_animation here you go <3 i honestly find razor and bristleback very easy i dont like zeus attack animation but its fine because he can just chain lightning

Okay the super easies (off the top of my head, I'll try and name the worthy ones):

Melee:

Treant
Tiny
Doom
Pudge
Bloodseeker
Terrorblade
Kunkka (you can screw yourself over with tide if you don't capitalize on the creeps)

----> Insert all standard .1-.3 atk animation carries <------

Range:

----> Insert any hero with additional orb walk dmg <----
Viper
Luna
OD
Shadowfiend
Sniper
Drow (until lvl 6)
Venge
Dazzle
Pugna
Mirana

I actually quite like Mirana's attack animation and Drow's and Bristle's.

WISP is hard, and soon there will be techies....

Zeus' animation is so horrible you sometimes can't even farm an empty lane without having to use your spells. And even though Sniper's and Gyro's animations are the best in the game, because of their low damage it's sometimes still hard to LH with them.

Visage, Lina, and Bristle are hard. I think some of the above mentioned ones are easier with practice or a different (item) set.

Yes, sometimes having a different weapon makes the animation easier to gauge.

awful

drow, zeus,lvl 1 and 2 sniper, naga siren

semi bad

crystal maiden, broomother, huskar, lina

best

beast master, sand king, blood seeker, luna, medusa, dazle, invoker

sniper and pre-six drow

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this

Mirana, lion
Best od

Lina? It's like a fucking pitchers throw to middle. Shit takes .75 seconds. 3 FUCKING 4THS OF A SECOND

I agree with wookie. Razor's last hit animation and sound doesn't match up. The whip goes out and extends makes the crack sound, then a bit after the crack it does damage. Stupidest thing ever. Wouldn't it do dmg during the "crack" sound? I really hate that about some of these guys attack animation/sound trying to do it right. very frustrating.

Wisp and Witch doctor are pretty good

I hate skele king,

Slardar is also a good meele

Best: gyro
Worst: Lina

luner has the best animation
zeus the worst

So this thread suddenly turned into a "Which heroes are you best at killing creeps with?" thread.

aye sir

Although slow, I dont' find lina's that bad. She has a decent swing which you can cancel really late and the missile is a nice constant speed. Zeus is much worse, probably the worst. If bottle ever gets nerfed that guy is toast.

BS and SF win.

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Razor's damage delay is by far the worst i can remember.

hahaha i forgot about lina.
If there is something i hate more in this game than sniper's laugh when he kills you is her attack animation.
It's like ok, i got that last hit, wait no what is she doing, lina, damn girl attack that stop waving your hands.

lol just one person mentioned Beastmaster, he's probably the best. Clockwerk is also awesome. And wtf Naga awful? Her animation is quite good

^ She lost like 12 attack damage in one patch and people who were bad at last hitting could never adapt.

Beastmaster is awesome

worst id say zeus. zeus or smth stupid like bone. razor aint that awesome either.

best, id say clock and tb.

Sniper is the best by far in regards to animation. I'd say the easiest to last hit with in general is Bristleback, and the hardest would be Lina.

its not his animation its his projectile speed. without headshot his base dmg is ass, and not that awesome to last hit with.

Best: Sniper.
Worst: Lina.

last hitting with naga is like last hitting sniper $way 2 hard

necrolyte is almost worse than drow pre 6 actually.

and actually, BB is sorta odd to last hit with these days because his animation is off. When he got buffed, they didn't change the animation for him

To be honest, I really love Ogre Magi's attack animation. It's just so quick for a str hero.

Worst: Weaver pre power treads.
Best: Anti-Mage. Low damage variance (+/- 2), low attack delay and audible confirmation.

For me gyro is the easiest, and morph to with a couple of levels. I think Magnus deserves a mention to its pretty easy with him

@ Shinji

Ogre Magi is an INT hero :O

@ The rest here.

I think the original thread is "from easiest to hardest what order do the characters go through?"

People are putting in what levels heros are good at last hitting and such or with or without items. It should be naked with lvl 1 going to ur lane what's easiest to worst with last hitting.

Worst:
Lina
Zeus
Luna
Mirana sometimes
Jakiro
I find Dragon Knight quite hard

Best:
Sniper
Treebeard
Warlock
Witch Doctor
Venomancer

naked lvl 1 would be treant protector

90 base dmgggg

worse gyro lasthit my ass... wtf

Batrider ez af

Worst - Crystal Maiden, Zeus & Lina.
Best - a lot of heroes have easy animation to lh, so I don't have favorites.

Naga Siren is by far the worst, like really worst. She raises her hands first then do the actual attack. And ever since the nerf, her damage is shit. Without spamming riptide or getting quelling blade or both, it's very hard to get a full wave.

Void has the best attack animation in the game for me. His base damage is great. He has easy-to-time back swings, and do fairly quick strikes. With just quelling and a couple of slippers, claiming the whole creep wave is easy.

Surprised no one mentioned razor, I find his attack animation very weird.
Edit: Yeah, someone mentioned him, nvm.

anything that has slow projectile, like death prophet -.-

Best: Bloodseeker, Windranger, Anti Mage, Shadow Fiend

Worst: Mirana, Weaver, Drow Ranger

Most supports have shitty animations, but you won't be farming with them all that much anyways.

imo i really like lifestealer's last hitting, it's one of the easiest i've found so far, but that might be due to the high base damage