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General DiscussionWhat i couldve done in this match

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    I played LC and we good early and mid game and somehow in late game abba is big.... i avoided teamfight as much as possible and aim to throne by myself since i already have +330 dmg + deso and mjjolnir even backdoor protection cant handle it imo...

    nami

      Rather then try to end it yourself, I think it would have been better if you asked for smoke ganks and initiated the idea of pickoffs before pushing.

      Almost the entirety of your team is pickoff orientated.

      Totentanz to The King: M ...

        Get an AC. Deso sucks on that hero. You don't need more damage, you need HP and armor so you won't die in the duel.

        Wink

          lol ember's items

          also, mjolnir instead of ac on lc? dafuq?

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          Androgynous

            TL;DR "What could I have done in this match"
            • Participated sooner with a better skill build
            • Choose more suitable items
            • Push when Prophet is dead
            • 5 man Necrobook strat

            • Get AC instead of Desolator, or AC instead of Mjolnir, since your armour is low and attack speed can improve your DPS more than extra damage will due to getting damage from duel. If you want to take buildings, AC does a better job than Mjolnir because of the -5 armour, and the attack speed that it gives to nearby creeps too.

            e.g. look at Tiny. He has fucktons of damage from Grow, but you don't get more damage on him to boost his damage, you get attack speed. Replace "Tiny" with "Legion Commander" and "Grow" with "Duel"

            • You still shouldn't be backdooring though, you'll need multiple people if you want to destroy buildings which have bd protection. The better option is to push two lanes at once, so the enemy is either forced to group and defend one lane, or split up and risk getting picked off by your ganking line up, probably resulting in 2 buildings from 2 different lanes.

            • If your BKB is 4 seconds in the late game, farm another one. 4 seconds isn't enough against Lion and Lina, Lion also has E-blade, so that's another disable that stops you attacking. They have a ridiculous amount of regular lockdown, compared to only Roar and Abyssal that go through BKB.

            • Not going a crappy 0-2-4-1 skill build and getting more points into Q and W would have let you participate earlier instead of hanging out your team to dry for 20 minutes like a typical LC / Bloodseeker / Axe / Naix who "jungles"

            • Even as a jungler you won't need more than 1 point in Moment of Courage. The main scaling is the lifesteal, and that isn't what makes you jungle quicker, because it doesn't increase your damage per hit. Attacking more often or doing more damage makes you jungle quicker, and more levels in MOC only increase the proc chance by 2%. More points into MOC keep you in the jungle (you won't die from jungle creeps) but it won't make you leave the jungle any sooner (your items or levels won't be any quicker)

            • At least one point in Q means you can chase people with the bonus movement speed to get in duel range, that'll help get the snowball rolling. You're going to be winning duels by teaming with allies and having them nuke the enemy down, you're not going to be getting 5 MOC proc attacks off, so there's no point in getting multiple points in it early on, since everyone's damage and attack speed suck at that point in the game. That means they won't be attacking you often to proc MOC enough, and your right clicks deal shit damage anyways that they won't kill.

            • Putting extra points into W rather than E has the same effect for jungling (it heals you more, and the added attack speed means you jungle quicker), but it also benefits your allies where MOC does not.

            • Prophet is 0-14, but still did a large amount of tower damage. If he was 0-14 though, he was probably very easy to pick off. When Prophet is down, that's when you can take buildings and not be afraid of being split pushed. If he is up, be patient and wait for him, he'll eventually be split pushing if he wants to be doing his job correctly.

            • These changes might have allowed you to get the ball rolling quicker, or prevented a death that allowed the enemies to snowball / come back from a deficit / what have you, and would've impacted the late game because of it. You said your early and mid game was good, but it could've definitely been better, otherwise the enemy would not have beaten you late, and should not have, because their late game potential is much weaker than yours.

            • If you're 6 slotted and still can't take the base, use your excess gold while still having enough for buyback, to buy a Necronomicon and have the courier swap out an item so you can activate it, then put the Necro back until its off cooldown again. Refresher for double Necro units if you're having that much trouble taking buildings, and there's nothing else to get.

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