General DiscussionLarge satyr camp is the best camp to meet at level 1 on any jungler.

mud golems camp is the best

semi-agree. chen/enchantress/doom are not happy with these camps at level 1

if you're talking about medium camps then the satyr's are much better than mud golems imo. total satyr camp has +80HP than mud golems, but both mud golems have 2 armour whereas little satyrs have 0, and the medium ones have 1. golems average 31 damage per hit, medium satyrs average 25 and little ones average 8, so if you have stout shield you take less damage from the satyrs overall. medium satyr camp also gives 30 more XP than mud golem camp.

Depends on situation. Most of the time trolls and satyrs are the best because they both give the most EXP, but also deal the least damage. But if you want a very early FB as Chen etc , centaur can be better.

The infamous mud golems are really nice if you are playing lycan or furion, and they aren't really a problem if you play enigma or chen/enchantress either. Satyr camps (the medium ones) are the best for level 1 jungling, while the big satyr camps are the best later on.

Hellbears and ursas can go fuck themselves though, always a depressing to see those camps

if you play tb wood, wolves camp is the best one, followed closely by satyre

hellbears universally accepted as sign of bullshit and frustration

I prefer the medium satyr camp at level 1 for exp, followed by big troll camp then big satyr camp. Mud golems are kind of meh.... mediocre xp and gold but not as hard to kill at lvl 1 compared to wolves/centaur camp.

Worst camp imo is tornado chicken camp.

u joking? try killing satyrs with lvl 1 sandstorm, fucking nightmare

Also for enigma, ursa camp is by far the best one level 1

Actually Satrys are still better for Enigma. Because the big ursa will insta-clap all three of your eidolons and that is actually pretty bad. But Trolls suck REALLY hard for Enigma.

@Wood
until the hellbear bitchslaps every eidelon in the face for half their hp

Completely depends on the hero. Doom is not happy with the large satyrs? Are you kidding me? That's the best camp there is for him, devour the big guy for the 4 hp regen, the little guy under 10 dmg so you can block all of it, the medium guy does like 5 if you block. You lose no health fighting these guys after eating the big one.

uhh...

for doom i guess for the +4 hp regen

the eagle thing with the +5 armor also does him wonders with a RoB
or the ogre frost

idk doom makes everythin useful why am i even talkiin about him

idk i like the purple guys/light purple at the small camps, easy to kill, deal little to no dmg, same with the weakest spawn that has the speed aura guy and tons of little ones

dont really like wolves, centaurs or hell bears...

I REALLY HATE THE HEALER camp, if i have any hero that deals dmg passively from being hit.. i.e. corrosive skin, counter helix
cause then it fucks up the pull... can't even try even if you wanted unless you just don't level it up at all - which is stupid

also ive seen that red satyr KS with his shockwave way more often then it really should

also seen the cold witch or those poison guys have some major effects on ganks that happen on the safelane/offlane

For doom the troll camp should be better, 50mana for skeletons who actually deal some dmg and tank.

With jungle doom you build a bassy at lvl 1? I always go shield, quell, tangos so I'd much rather rip though that first camp and come out lvl 2 with full hp than have the bird armor. The ogre frost is sweet but costs a lot of mana to keep going, the troll guys are good too but they die quickly. I think the large satyr is the best.

i luvvvv satyrs :D !

i dont get it at lvl 1 but i buy a ring of protection/stout/tango/clarity or gg branch

i just make it if i need it
yeah but u gotta stick with what RNG gave u unless u travel around both jungles... and even then.... lol

it does cost a lot of mana, i have a tendency to spam it even when its not wearing off due to habit :/ but yeah i just stick with the satyr, the bird and then the usual alpha wolf

@deadshot
eh... that seems like a lot of mana and more fit for support doom (which i hate doing).

You definitly don't know how to enigma wood if you think that ursa clap is
1) a problem for eildolon
2) have your eidolon clapped in first place

At the old times, creeps used to insta cast their spells. That was were the main nightmare was. Also satrys have 0 armor so they are way easier to kill compared to a 5 armor ursa.

even when they insta cast, you could not get clapped, if you knew how to do it.

Not to mention that you don't care of how much hp has the spot, since you can kill the ursa spot in less than 20 sec, so you can use your fresh 6 eidolon to do a good portion of the big spot again

he means u have to grab de bitches and then cast eidolons when they return to camp ( its advanced knowledge of dota ) no one blames you for not knowing it*

I am actually analyzing cost-efficiency of all the camps and by far satyr camps are the best camps for the gold/XP they give per point of damage they do to you, both in medium and hard camps. Also they give you quick level 2 which is also golden opportunity.

gotta love it when ur own ally runs by the large camp and blocks it tho (:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvXGRE4D7nc

as a lycan use . The list of camp in peference order will be
1) medium satyr
2) medium mud golum
3) medium troll
4) medium wolves
5) any small camp
6) medium or large cent
7-8) large birds and large satyr
9) large bears

Hellbears suck, but once you get your midas they're pretty satisfying.

For Crystal Maiden hellbears and centaurs are the best, while satyrs are the worst.