General DiscussionUrsa mana issues

Well actually with vlads and boost on blink dagger, he shouldn't use that much mana
but for mana issue you can use orchid/vyse which as well minimise the usage of your BKB in teamfight.

In addition to Vyse I think linkens is a pretty good pickup, especially if the enemy team has a lot of instant initiation which might catch you out before you have a chance to use BKB

Well ofc when no arcane boots in team (venge supp. PT very useful..)

Yfay, you're right. In a teamfight Ursa doesn't need much mana. But when Ursa never goes back to fountain in the entire game except for 1-2 times, he is always starved of mana. I'm not sure about Orchid/Vyse since Ursa generally has more important items to build.

Knight Of End has suggested excellent item, Linken's Sphere! +15 to all attributes, 150% mana regen as well as blocking a potential game changing spell. Now I can remember that in past, I used to buy that item to solve my mana problem. Thank you. :)

what i used to do, rely on aegis. just die then you have full mana again. or euls scepter, + if you get hit cast it on your self once the cycloe ends you can blink away, + it gives you movement speed. i dont anymore since mana free blink ;)

Yeah, aegis is one nice way to get back mana :)

Haha, I never thought about Euls + blink escape! Good one indeed! Mana issues solved + a lot more movement speed + great escape. Thanks a lot for this tip :D

Never really have mana issues with ursa. If you jungle with ursa you might run out of mana from spamming Fury Attack, but he should be pretty close to vlads (haven't played him since the orb change) and needs to heal HP anyway. If you're laning, then you don't really need mana at all. Just need to pick your spots when you use your skills.

The blink changed pretty made it so he should have no mana problem at all. Past the laning phase, you should be heading into team battles with full mana and be able to cast the stomp and the attack speed a coulple of times per team fight. If you're not bursting people in those first couple times, you probably lost, or they're running out of steam as well.

If ou really need mana you could go for cyclone or sheep as earlier mentioned.

Mana is the least of my worries on ursa. I don't think I've ever had issues except when maybe spamming overpower in jungle before I want to do a rosh. Maybe your teammates need more mana boots, matches when you have zero supports with mana boots suck, like when lion and lich both go tranquils.

Why not get a Vyse? There is no such thing as too many sheepsticks in a team.

Vyse is fckin good on ursa dood

I think he is having mana issues long before you'd build a vyse. Vyse is like your 4th or 5th item right? Boots, vlads, blink in some order, bkb, vyse? Or maybe not until bkb, heart/skadi, vyse.

Well...yeah, but still. I don't think Ursa should have much mana issues unless there are 0 Arcanes on his team.

Actually the answer is simple, just go skadi sooner. It gives 575 mana, that's a lot for ursa to use up. If you don't go other orbs and still go vlads setup I don't see why you would ever get a heart over skadi. Heart gives 1060 hp and 74 dmg with his ult up, skadi gives 25 dmg all the time plus attack speed, mana, 725 hp, 3.5 armor and the debuff. Skadi is vastly superior at this point since heart regen isn't needed, just go whack some creeps to regen. Only reason not to skadi is if you do like MoM build or something, though I supposed a satanic would be interesting too, stacking satanic use with overpower would be instant full hp.

"I think he is having mana issues long before you'd build a vyse." That's correct :)

With Blink and BKB being core, it is really hard to purchase items like Vyse. Eul's and Perseverance seem easier to buy. As for late game, I don't think that I'll have mana issues since all the mana is saved purely for 10 man teamfights.

Ever since Fury Swipes is no more Unique Attack Modifier, I'm still heavily confused what to buy! Do I build HotD and then Satanic? Or do I buy Orb of Venom early game and build into Eye of Skadi?

I think skadi is much superior. The only other unique I'd really consider is mask of madness vs supports who can't disable you like omni, dazzle, pugna, veno and carries without escapes like sniper, drow, gyro. All those guys can slow you a bit but not enough to escape from mom increased movement. It might even be good vs disablers like cm, lion, ss, but those guys will probably escape either way.

Vyse is core on Ursa.

Core ? rolf no, is good but if you dont need to why would you buy it ?

Well about the mana thing, i never had any problems with mana on ursa, well actually i do but usually after 2 fights, that its when i go back to base anyway.

Skadi stacks with MoM, so why not both?

MoM may sound bad on paper because of overpower but combined with Phase Boots it gives 522 movespeed, which is horrifying to play against.

Oh shheeet I always forget that, guess no reason to not skadi then, I'd never get a deso on ursa and that's pretty much the only other orb. And yes, you grab mom for the movespeed to run down and annihilate supports and squishy carries. It's a very viable alternative to vlads.

ursa picker spotted