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kakakotkoa

    can u recommend me one of your replays where u use the dagger to good extent? would like to see that (checked your last one and that was without any of that afaik)

    Totentanz to The King: M ...

      It's not what hero you play, it's about how many retards you get in your team.

      Tinderman

        ....tldr

        Guts

          @kakakotkoa You can check this match http://dotabuff.com/matches/764115217, ES, WR, TA, QOP, And enigma vs me, check minute 38:54 and see my hero, it's just one of the thing that I like from blink, I played a lot of kunkka so I don't remember most of my games but this was a recent clip :p

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          SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

            i got an amazing kunkka last game, but not as good as you :>

            Guts

              @Psychedelica You'll be better than me in no time :p

              Seoulmate

                ^
                Maybe it requires more practice to be able to play good w/ Kunkka that others arent willing to put in

                Guts

                  @HotSalza You can say that about any hero :D

                  SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                    Yeah it's not just the build, you need excellent map awareness to use this build properly. It's an aggressive way to play Kunkka since Blink + X = 2000+ initiation range.

                    I remember when Hailrake's WK build came out, a lot of people tried it. They probably gained like 300 MMR at most (cuz it is a good build), but then stopped progressing.

                    When you play 1 hero over and over you need to know the hero's weaknesses. For example when I play PA at 5.2k, I stay back until the other team's aoe spells are all used up. Then I go assassinate their squishy heroes (never target centaur/tide/etc. unless they're low on hp). Also knowing when to turn on BKB is crucial since you don't want the seconds to go to waste. The moment ur BKB is done for, the other team can chain stun and just kill you.

                    These are just little things, but being able to master them will land you at 6k. If !Attacker moved on and played another high-impact hero he would also be able to get 6k rating (eventually) just because he can execute all the things I just mentioned. However most people don't have time to play 10 games a day so sticking with 1 hero and improving with it is the most reasonable way to get higher rating.

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                    Guts

                      @Psychedelica All you said is true, but I think the way to progress MMR is to just try to play every game seriously, you would be surprised at how many games that I won when the game score was 2-9 or something like that, most players in my team said let them end, but one good fight brings you right into the game. Not every game can be won, but you never know which ones you can win so you have to play your best.

                      Phenomenal

                        I just watched your last game !Attacker, what a player!

                        Noé

                          Whats the point of BF on kunkka?

                          PyroManyak

                            its about the dmg and how fast you can farm a creep wave I guess.

                            Fay

                              If you are fighting PA would you consider swapping 1 daedalus to MKB?

                              Guts

                                @Yfay I wouldn't because I wouldn't hit PA I would just hit whatever next to her.

                                Fay

                                  So if i hit something next to her, the cleave damage won't miss?
                                  I never knew this.. I thought it will only ignore armor..

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                                  sano

                                    Cleave never misses. Btw, I watched this replay: http://dotabuff.com/matches/766137374
                                    You're a beast dude. Sick performance, you clearly have a deep understanding of the hero and a lot of experience.

                                    Fay

                                      ^
                                      LOL i saw that match too

                                      Guts

                                        Yeah I had a really good start and my team ganked mid twice or three times which was incredibly helpful, Thanks!

                                        Ples Mercy

                                          that's basicly 2xsing's build 2 years ago.

                                          Sir

                                            http://dotabuff.com/matches/501030015 how about when i get you in my team you take kunkah :(

                                            ♛ peSte ♛

                                              this guy is legit as fuck on Kunkka
                                              I wonder if he can play other heroes like he does with Kunkka

                                              Fay

                                                I saw him play LC once because the other team picked kunkka but in that match Attacker won.
                                                He is still 6.6k player after all, so his map awareness, reaction and other skills at least still better than average player.

                                                Gubbz

                                                  played with !Attacker and i aprove this build :D

                                                  Seoulmate

                                                    I was amazed at how he stacked 2 camps at once w/ tidebringer, never thought of that.
                                                    Also when he was chasing someone he used torrent to stall them while he drew a low hp neutrals aggro for tidebringer damage on the hero. I would've never even thought of that.

                                                    Guts

                                                      @Yfay Haha that game was funny because the guy who picked kunkka said :) to make me angry or something, He thought i'll feed and lose the game maybe? XD

                                                      @GUBB I think we lost that game when you played with me :P

                                                      @HotSalza Trust me, once you play the same hero 600+ times these things don't become as impressive :D

                                                      sano

                                                        tried your build bro http://dotabuff.com/matches/767797177
                                                        fucking legit.

                                                        edit: fun fact: 4/15 TA was the highest MMR by far (5.7k)

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                                                        Guts

                                                          @Raison du plus fort That's good to hear! :D
                                                          He was feeding but he was fat :O

                                                          sano

                                                            he was not a bad player at all, easy to see he managed to farm a lot despite dying a lot
                                                            props to enigma and SD who rotated really well, enigma played amazingly

                                                            Guts

                                                              Shoutout to our support bros in MMR, peace out!

                                                              ♨Dacheat♨

                                                                Happened to see your name on live games and decided to watch your match. It was a good one.

                                                                http://dotabuff.com/matches/766137374

                                                                Guts

                                                                  @Dacheat Thanks, my team supported me pretty good early game aswell.

                                                                  saoulfou

                                                                    This build is so fucking good holy shit asuyfgbsauyb. I suck with kunkka and was able to do good. GG Learning kunkka

                                                                    Guts

                                                                      @Saoulfou Glad you liked it ! :)

                                                                      XeraV

                                                                        @!Attacker ,

                                                                        I tried your build , it always goes good early game , always have a score like 7-0 , minute 12-15 battlefury , but it all goes downhill from there , I'm not the type to blame the team , but it seems like you either need to be a very good farmer to get daedulus quickly after or you just fall off (?) because there is very little team follow up's when it's midgame and team fights start , I won one and lost 5 , 2 of the losses were purely my bad especially the last game , anyways , if you could give one of my games a look and tell me if I should be farming more or helping the team more that would be great..

                                                                        Guts

                                                                          @Xerav Getting a fast fury shouldn't always mean to keep farming, you should farm but always carry a TP with you and try to go for solo kills with the x torrent ship combo, if there is a big team fight early game you have to be there aswell because the torrent ship combo is almost a surekill at min 10-20. You just need to figure when to farm and when your presence in the fight will make a difference, which is a lot since you're a kunkka. Maybe your playstyle isn't fitting this build, you can always go for the utility and tanky kunkka build, drums bkb assault heart and a daedalus. With enough practice and experience hopefully you'll find the best way to do what's right for the game you're in.

                                                                          SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                                                                            i wish my team would give me enough space to farm a bfury on PA instead of me having to create space for THEM by building vlads/SnY every game :D

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                                                                            Fay

                                                                              congrats :D
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                                                                              sano

                                                                                That's really nice indeed. But it's important to remember it's not just his build that led him to 6.6k. If you watch his replays you'll easily see he's a very skilled player and knows how to use the hero to its full extent.

                                                                                pizdos

                                                                                  i think u know Hailrake? at least u played with him few weeks ago (that wk player, he was in top15 of ladder)
                                                                                  so he says the best build is phase -> shadow blade -> bf -> dagger -> daedalus in that order
                                                                                  what can u say about this? and if its bad then can u say why?

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                                                                                  mwsqz

                                                                                    oh my fuckin god you ppl, stop fuckin thinking a BUILD can do anything for fuck sake
                                                                                    i could buy bloodstone first on every single hero and still rape

                                                                                    if youre a good player the build wont matter that much, if u do a good build great, u'll dominate easier, if not, u'll still do good, maybe less than u'd do with appropriate build.

                                                                                    now if ur shit, no matter the build u do you WILL do shit.

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                                                                                    Candy

                                                                                      ^Prove it!

                                                                                      Get a bloodstone on void as a first item and still win the game and send the replay back here.

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