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General DiscussionI have 2600 MMR :( ............ Is this bad???? I have about 1000 gam...

I have 2600 MMR :( ............ Is this bad???? I have about 1000 games.... normal for my kind of level? in General Discussion
ricericerice

    I feel sad whenever I see people with 4K MMR.. what is the difference in gameplay between those games of 2600 MMR and 4~5k MMR?
    I usually never play ranked... is this a bad thing? because whenever I play normal, the gameplay if generally better than solo ranked....

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    Whatever

      How can you have 2.6k with that winrate and KDAs?

      Vroksnak

        if this is your first 1k games of any pc game, 2k is fine, x)

        Zahard

          unranked better than ranked? what

          BenaoLifedancer

            its normal, you usually get better with time...just dont ever think you're 4k again in the next 2 months or so because you clearly arent. it may seem so but there's a sea amount of difference between what you can see and what 4k players can see even though it might not appear so, seemingly playing at equal level. the difference is a true 4k can maintain his 4k and would be able to rise in from 2k fast enough while a 2k could pass for a 4k in a couple of games but wouldnt be able to maintain 4k in the long run, making it impossible to rise from 2k until he gets to around 4k level :). so you're a 2k which is ok too... you're NEW hence newbee noob and all that shit. it requires time and dedication, not dunning kruger to advance and get better and the sooner you get it the faster

            eXcel

              With those stats, I'm like 95% sure you're trolling.

              Quick maffs

                Dude if you play some ranked you can get up to 4k easily, just spam tinker or slark and its fine

                I am at 3,4k now but i am winning a lot of solo ranked games ( thanks tinker ) so i tihnk i can get to 4k pretty quickly now

                Pilot

                  2.6k MMR with 53% WR and almost 600 games of ranked?

                  CaptainDreads

                    @Allison

                    My unranked games tend to be FAR better than my ranked game at the minute, unless I play unranked All Pick.

                    Probably because I've not played many ranked game and (hopefully) gradually got better unranked.

                    Duel

                      I usually never play ranked

                      Ranked MM 609
                      54.68%
                      Normal MM 591
                      53.81%

                      Hex Sigma

                        ^LOL is that your mmr? Man and i though i was low.

                        Fay

                          ^
                          ..
                          don't know if trolling or being _ _ _ _ _

                          BenaoLifedancer

                            cant believe i posted honestly... this guy is clearly trolling but the farming of people in his games rly suck xDDDD so mby 4k at most from farming skills.... on the other hand the item clearly shows some understandment (everyone with bkb's and shit) so idk.... why even waste our time rly

                            Metallicize

                              Guys look at his team's rating, and then think again when you say he is trolling.
                              And btw, to say something about mmr, i had a guy on my friend list that had 4k games and 2700 rating.

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                              Androgynous

                                it might be true, hard to say since his ranked games rarely have brackets shown, but the ones that did were from like a month ago and they were normal bracket, so im guessing he's near the normal/high "divide" so to speak - which is why DB is uncertain of the bracket he's in.

                                @raspharus
                                those are the stats of OP's matches
                                OP has played 609 matches of ranked mm and 591 of unranked, and those are his winrates in them.

                                Wink

                                  http://dotabuff.com/matches/762736381

                                  this is what happens when someone just under 4k plays with people just under 2.5k

                                  ricericerice

                                    LOL <3 ESP

                                    ricericerice

                                      what do u mean I am trolling guys? ask ESP WINK.... I am actually 2600 MMR... to be precise.. 2599 MMR

                                      ricericerice

                                        @ Vroksnak王 never got into games this deep... all i ever played was starcraft 1 :P and that was it

                                        [Lk].Zano

                                          They think you are trolling because you have generally good KDAs and winrates for someone with 2600 MMR. Who knows? Maybe you have the knowledge and skills necessary for climbing in MMR, but are missing in the decision making department. I'd have to watch a game to be sure...or ask Wink :P

                                          cn.M

                                            lol trollls, i like them

                                            SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                                              unranked is a pretty shitty pool right now, i just played with a 3k friend (while my unranked mmr is probably around 4700 on my other account) and it seemed like my entire team was 3500-4000 while the other team was 4000-4500 just judging by how well they farm/move around the map

                                              pretty awful if u ask me, though i'm sure at 2600 you'd have enough people in that rating range

                                              there is nothing wrong with choosing not to play ranked, but you'll generally play with/against people who will try harder to win, and if you want to improve without asking someone to coach you or playing on a team, then ranked MM is the best means to do so. focus on ur own mistakes, try not to rage at allies (this is the hardest part, actually), and you will eventually move up

                                              most 4k mmr players are complete trash so don't worry about it, you seem like someone who can raise his rating quickly if you just stick to playing ur best and most impactful heroes over and over. i've been playing dota on and off since late 2008 and only recently acquired 5k rating, so there is nothing wrong with having 2.6k while being relatively new. i'm sure there are some people who have been playing just as long as i have and are still stuck with a trash 3k/low 4k rating, but ur probably not retarded so don't worry about it

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                                              Wink

                                                He's 2.6k because he doesnt play competitive so he has nowhere to learn, it's pretty obvious that he has potential to be really good. he played his first disruptor game today and made plays my 3k friends would never make.

                                                SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                                                  in that case he should go play ranked mm, add the people who he thinks are good, and then go from there. i'd also advise inhouse leagues though those usually have a minimum mmr requirement

                                                  i don't think playing competitive is a prerequisite or even beneficial to getting better at pubs, i know several of my friends who have been playing competitive since god knows when (before i even started dota, this would be the era of death prophet/necrolyte "teamfight" meta like back in 2007) and they have slightly lower rating than i do now (high 4k), probably because i've just been fiending mm games over and over for the past year while they're stuck with their old ways of thinking/playing (5 stacking in unranked and stomping people worse than them instead of actually having to face challenging players)

                                                  yes solo mm can and will be unbearable sometimes with beyond awful allies, but eventually you'll reap the benefits if u have the right attitude. think of it as the high intensity training of dota

                                                  gl and remember to have fun

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                                                  Light.k

                                                    Why you guys dont believe he is 2.6k.

                                                    He is pretty much 100% game in normal bracket.
                                                    http://dotamax.com/player/detail/163204703/

                                                    mongoloid

                                                      Some people improve faster than others. For people that dont (i assume you) , if you havent played dota 1, you wont break 3k MMR with just merely 1k games. Can you imagine how many games veterans have played over 10 years since dota was made? I would say an average pro played around 7k++ games.

                                                      SUMAIL <3 IRAQ

                                                        i've probably played close to 10,000 games dota 1 + 2 combined

                                                        longtime dota veterans like fear/arteezy probably closer to 20,000 (i remember arteezy was really awful in dota 1, i was even slightly better than him back then, now i'm a scrub compared to him lol)

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                                                        Wink

                                                          update:
                                                          http://dotabuff.com/matches/769452877

                                                          He probably isn't learning because his retarded friends are dragging him down. I literally had to argue with Nyx to not buy a Battlefury and to just get a Blink and Urn, but he refused and built a linkens and BoT instead.

                                                          I had to fight for 20 minutes with Shadow Demon about carrying TP, which he refused to do and it literally cost us top barracks. He eventually bought a TP when we couldnt even leave our base.

                                                          I told Tusk not to get a Battlefury and to get Deso/MKB instead, but he also didn't listen. I said "No wonder you guys are 1k mmr, you refuse to improve" and they responded with "I don't care about MMR, you think you're some sort of reborn jesus trying to tell us how to play"...

                                                          He definitely should do inhouses with a community league if he wants to improve, clearly finding random idiots won't help.

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                                                          cn.M

                                                            lol battlefury is absolutely legit on nyx

                                                            Wink

                                                              Yes, in the same way that battlefury is legit on Bounty Hunter

                                                              (It's not)

                                                              Hex Sigma

                                                                wink can I also add you to coach me ? I really want to see what I'm doing wrong...

                                                                Strongmind

                                                                  ^
                                                                  If Wink start coach, you ll go smth like -1500 mmr very fast.

                                                                  Hex Sigma

                                                                    we'll see

                                                                    Wink

                                                                      add me, ill give it a shot. I have never coached SON before, i only played with him a few games and talked about his item choices and decision making.

                                                                      *considers charging people to coach them*

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                                                                      BroDownSlowDown

                                                                        Solo mmr means nothing after calibration end of story.

                                                                        GENGHIS KHAN

                                                                          Well you are scrub, while i am pro becouse my MMR is 4 500 !!!

                                                                          BroDownSlowDown

                                                                            You could be 8k mmr your grammar skills are atrocious .

                                                                            ricericerice

                                                                              LOL WISP IS FAMOUS!
                                                                              can i coach someone too? :3 I'll sing for u the entire game if u charge me $3 a game :P
                                                                              <3 <3 <3

                                                                              Monkeh

                                                                                I have just over a thousand games and have 3200 solo MMR. Never played any mobas before. I'm an awful player.

                                                                                MaximusDecimus

                                                                                  unranked has less pressure to succeed, I can see why you feel it is a better experience, no one is serious about winning unranked half the time

                                                                                  Quick maffs

                                                                                    Guys i need serious help

                                                                                    All my good heroes/pubstomp heroes that i know how to play are mid heroes, but what do i do when someone takes my mid ? usually i just lose

                                                                                    I need a good pubstomp that doesnt need mid lane

                                                                                    Quick maffs

                                                                                      TB is the first one in my list, but i need to learn how to play him first

                                                                                      g w s

                                                                                        @dorkly

                                                                                        just pick undying

                                                                                        Wink

                                                                                          @dorkly
                                                                                          Offlane: Clock / Mirana
                                                                                          Jungle: NP / Doom
                                                                                          Carry: FV / Luna
                                                                                          Support: Undying / Lich

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