General DiscussionTo all 4k trash who still didn't understand....

alchemist is shit dude

Alch is as good as Broodmama, if you avoid all counters and pick him last, you have a tiny chance to win.

Alchemist is shit, situational pick.

Lol sir

Alchemist is pretty meh

Efextoide: 6.84c 0% winrate
Alltime: 37.50% winrate

Soultrap: 6.84c 0%winrate
Alltime: 50.00% winrate

Imprecis: 6.84c 0%winrate
Alltime: 46.42% winrate

Filthy: not gonna bother normal skill.

Dorkly: 6.84c. Not played
Alltime: 20% winrate

Me: 6.84c 71.43% winrate
Alltime: 63.64%winrate

Competitive dota since 6.84: 50% winrate

Shit hero confirmed Kappa

Apparently 4k trash can't play alchemist. 2 Hard to understand item progression.

So tell us what is your item progression and how you play Alch in general? I only tried Alch as position #4 jungling support and it was hell, because enemy team had aggro trilane.

he is shit cuz all casual 4k's cannot play him and have no impact except of 1000gpm. So i will flame any alch in my team immediately cuz the loss seems certain - nobody climbes w alchi and 4k's are grinders, who dont accept low winrate heros.

@Soultrap:
Item progression depends greatly on enemy and team lineup. Sometimes it's better to go full greed with midas and Bfury and other times it's simply better to go for early game like mek and silvers edge.

You should almost always play alchemist mid, since he needs exp and is actually really strong mid. You can zone out the enemy mid with acid spray and push the lane to get the runes and ofc ask your team for helping to secure the runes, not to mention the bounty rune is retardedly good on alchemist. It usually ends up in a really fat alchemist destroying the enemy hard.

Here is an example:
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1544074340

All lanes lost hard. I ended up with 1 7 stats because my supports refused to ward for me and do anything. Despite the very bad early game and useless supports i had (especially abbadon), i already saw how the game would pan out in the drafting phase, so i went for early fighting build which was pt, into mek, into Silvers edge. I was able to get a lot of important kills and pickoffs which turned the game slowly, i got more damage since i was already tanky enough because of the mek + edge and got more kills until i went beyond godlike. Sadly my team was still relativiley useless and kept feeding ember spirit. After a rather long time ember went rapiers and that was the moment i altered my build into something more mobile and made sure i had enough disable to catch ember spirit off guard, which worked.

In the end that game was pretty much a 1 man alchemist show despite getting flamed from the very beginning from autistic 4k players.

EDIT:
Actually, i didn't make a video in a long ass time. I think i will make an advanced guide for alchemist and explain a lot and show some examples.

i'm a 3K scrub, alchemist is shittttttttttttttttt! O_O

You are 2.6k, stfu

Look out boys, he's got his dickhat on and he's coming out swinging

very exciting thread kappa
actually alchemist is quite a good hero, but i rarely meet people who know how to execute him properly.

max q or max e mid

alchemist is shit and situational at best

nice 3k solo and nice 42% alch winrate, i'm sure u can tell us very insightful stuff.

@Minor:
LoL 10/10

this topic looks like a nice place to show off my impressive alchemist stats

Pick Alch and say carry safe lane I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeDDDDDDDD!

Is this new blunt, or?

I miss old then.

^It is blunt, https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1333188734
I know because fyyq and me played with him.

We Fokken Lost is 4001 mmr and is flaming everyone 4000 and under.

wow

but OP is only on the HS VHS solo boundary, how do we take him seriously?

Sure, that's why everytime i'm in HS that there are people i stack with. Guess you are 3k then because you have 2 high skill matches Kappa

Pls use logic.

@Marlan:
Seems legit

@shred:
How the fuck is it not obvious to you that i'm blunt, i'm literally playing the same heroes, flaming like usual and play with the same fucking people. Are you really that dense?

I'm dumbass :P

If alchemist is so amazing how come everyone has bad win rates? By you flaming us and pointing out our win rates you are actually supporting our side.

@We Fokken Lost http://gyazo.com/b304a56b42d0ccbb7aac7e73ea8e8b58 "3k"

This post is going places....

Side note I cringe when people pick alchemist but on that note most the sheep who did post patch changes have swapped to picking actual OP meta heroes now like Lesh, bs, QOP, etc. Or they went back to spamming slark.

why did you buy euls on meepo?

does it save you from necro ulti?

if so, that's awesome.

do you yell at walls in your house as well?

alch is a fun hero, 3-0 on him lol
get some armour and dont get midas imo, bfury better if u wanna rice

@Marlan, break linkens and yes, it saves me from necro ult. You can euls your own meepos while necro ult is applied, basicially it's my way of dodge that pesky downtime from necro ultimate. It also is good when u have 1 low meepo in general. Sometimes it can decide if you stay alive or not.

@Tilt: I don't have walls anymore.

@Genii: wow, new level of dumbass has been achieved.

can u tell us how to play necro please

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1540436006
Ayy Lmao 6k mmr ezy mmr kappa

Look at his Lina skill build this guy has some fucking issues with his brain not working.

Also this retard is not even 4k cause he is flactuating between high skill and very high skill.

4k games, still 3k. Talking Kappa

@Big brainlag guy:
If only you could read.

Go check replay.
Had to go afk for 8-10mins. Brood simply pushed a free lane and ended the game.

You fucking lost to 4k trash in 1v1 mode and you call me bad, WoW. Pls go hang urself. ty

6 cs and 6 cs

triple, OK

You are so garbage and shit i don't even need to argue with you. You are actually 1k lower than me and you're a fucking loser that gets rekt by 4k trash while tryharding which is beyond sad.

It's funny how your small ego is getting hurt because you are so shit and insignificant that noone gives a shit about your opinion or arguments. Deal with it you trash.

We all know that american dota <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Rest. So shut the fuck up and go rage somewhere else you filthy loser.

'im also not sure how you can consider urself remotely decent at alchemist when ur skipping shadowblade and ur skipping heart both of which are required to be anyhow useful on that hero'

Guess we should call people in competitive dota fucking 3k trash since kitrak said so in dotabuff forum. Kill urself pls

I refuse to believe that you are 5.8k.

^upload dotabuff link here pls
if he dsnt get scared and not come

OK, so now you're at least 5.3k. shut the fuck up trash.

Also i can't play due to high ping you filthy shithead.