You don't have to. There are heroes who are only good during laning stage and completely useless after it.
P.S. So just get as much farm as you can and don't feed.
Well as Huskar it should be ez. Harrass her hard.
Or just pick Viper. Sf and Lina are more about getting your LH. Killing her as SF is not really possible. Make sure you have sentries on your hill beyond 6, or she can kill you with traps. Also care about haste run. Can also be devastating as sf, since you have not much to break her refractions.
I've seen it many times. For TA game goes like this:
1) TA buys fast Blink Dagger;
2) TA makes couple kills;
3) enemy team starts to play as group of 5;
4) TA becomes a support with only function to give vision and slow enemies;
5a) TA loses the game.
5b) despite useless mid, her teammates somehow manage to win.
TA does retarded damage, not sure how that becomes useless...
if thats the case, why doesnt sf fall off?
i really dont understand the logic there
yes TA wins almost every matchup but thats assuming the TA player is good which is probably not the case in OP's pubs
one thing people dont usually do (idk why) is fucking right click the shit out of TA, once her refracton is down shes very vulnerable to harassment and nukes (sf, lina)
just spam auto attacks on her, it will disturb creep equilibrium causing her to have to psi blade u with moving targets, and will allow you to overwhelm her refraction charges with double wave.
sf can rekt ta i did it most of my games but also rekt with ta sf so it's just about who is better playe (better player wins lane) as sf i get sentry pre 6 so i can remove traps cuz that's only way she kills me and i try to make her go on me so it takes refractions and i raze her up so it's simple and since i got sentry her melt doesn't save her either the point is u should not fuck up early if u do u need to stack jungle then or ask ur team
i killed Lina as TA mid because lina players are horrible at positioning, they get rekt by psiblades so hard. And against huskar i max meld, they towerdive and he gets meld dead.
i think i saw someone (miracle i think) maxing meld first against veno or some dps shit after two points in Q and one in E
legit?
@soultrap that's cus dumb TA's go all ape shit ganking and forget to keep farming. Psi blades lets you farm very fast, a TA should be a position 1 carry, not just a ganker mid. Actually I never even play TA but if I did and was mid I would sit on it and farm unless I got a really good rune.
Position 1 TA is autolose. Unless she soloing safe lane, while supports doing aggro trilane. She needs to be highest level fish in the pond.
Phoenix mid is so bad, why not just get it on a pos 4 or 5 and go mid eventually to set up a kill?
should i control lane or just clean wave fast and farm jungle(lina and sf)
still cant imagine how can lina haras ta so easy,if sf i would say LH cause i've done that and it worked
if i go his high ground then he can fight me with refrac
if i stay behind and LH ,then he can also haras me
agro creeps and positioning in lane seems to be the biggest impact??
ta also has a tendency to end up with pos 1 worth of farm unless the safe lane carry is a hero that is extremely good at farming
Lina has a pretttty big advantage in the early levels, especially at 1 when she only has level 1 refract or level 1 psi. LSA can control the lane really well and force her away from the wave, and Lina has like the longest range of mid heroes.
when i got 5 or 7,should i just push the wave for farm jungle and rune or keep controlling and haras
ya which is why i understand what heroes can beat templar and how
you want to keep controlling if you have a level advantage - hitting 6 first lets you pressure for a potential kill. if she hits 6 first then rotate and try to find kills
waga teach how to win as TA,he only tell that his weakness is positioning and dps
if u watch waga,basically looks like no one can counter ta even viper and qop
i want to counter ta since i rarely fight ta but when i do most of the time i lose my lane
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i cant handle TA mid with lina , huskar, or sf but i see pro player can handle this stuff(i saw it on youtube)
can anyone teach me how to win TA mid?