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General DiscussionUniverse, the best offlaner in the world?

Universe, the best offlaner in the world? in General Discussion
nelliel_

    Who do u think the best "offlaner" in the world?
    Surely, not u, noob/bobo!

    30 YEAR OLD DOTA VETERAN

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      nelliel_

        Who is he?

        robert

          He was but now he seems to be underperforming lately in secret. Well his back to EG .

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            Universe, the "best" offlaner.

            Seoulmate

              Forev :)

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                CLICHÉ✪

                  I dont know if Universe was the best offlaner, but he surely was the most consistently good one. His performance on Secret 4.0 was absolutely atrocious. I dont think theres clearly a best offlaner at the moment, it's such a difficult and diverse role aswell which has to do so much.

                  PTSD

                    Mind Control/Admiral Bulldog

                    A̶𝖘𝖍𝖊𝖘

                      Universe, without doubt.

                      Kobby

                        The best there is: AdmiralBulldog
                        The best there was: Zai (maybe will be again)
                        The most consistent: Universe (before Secret era)

                        Mongrel Intruder

                          Right now the best offlaner is between Moon from OG and MindControl fron Team liquid, they have a large pool of heroes and they can perform with perfection

                          Admiral Bulldog lacks of hero pool and that is a weakness in captains mode, Alliance is making him practice with more Str carry´s to turn that but he keeps his playstyle with carry´s, turning him into a predictible player.
                          sry for my bad english :P

                          CLICHÉ✪

                            Honestly everybody who says Bulldog is the best offlaner is a mindless Alliance/Bulldog-fanboy. He's amazing on 2 heroes and thats pretty much it.

                            Kobby

                              ^ Most of the stuff u say is mindless and rotarded, but you are not alone, its just that lately you spam the forum a lot...

                              "TheKid belowMeIs an ass"...

                                Bulldog . Don't even like alliance but the guy is pretty much the carry. His brood was amazing

                                Dikson

                                  Bullldong is like tier below MindControl, Moon and Forev.

                                  dunce

                                    BULBU
                                    legendary

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                                    Pessi

                                      Brothers, Universe is better than Bulldog. Universe very rarely make mistake. Sorry, bad english.

                                      Illyasviel

                                        Universe very rarely make mistake

                                        lul u should watch secret nowdays

                                        chocopie

                                          ^ yeah secret rarely makes things right 4Head

                                          CLICHÉ✪

                                            @Kobby
                                            FORCED MMR CONSPIRACY (also 45% weekly winrate + "rotarded")
                                            Also I dont think that I post "rotarded" stuff, im just making fun out of your FORCED MMR bullshit. Seriously learn how to improve, you got a 45% weekly winrate, yet you got the nerves to blame others for your failure.

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                                            Morningstar

                                              According to Manila major, its the Newbee guy (kpii??). Bulldog was good, top 3 in Manila for sure, granted his hero pool are limited in current patch (no ds,void, etc) but he plays very good on his pool hero ( Brood,Beast,Np). Moon are more up/down performance. His supports made him better.

                                              Feed

                                                Zai would be the best offlaner.

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                                                  Iceiceice

                                                  Johnny Rico

                                                    phantom riki without a doubt

                                                    CLICHÉ✪

                                                      ^still a more legit answer than Ice3x/Zai/Bulldog.
                                                      Kpii is actually the player with the least amount of deaths, which is very respectable as offlaner. He isnt really a player which makes flashy plays which is probably the reason nobody is mentioning him.
                                                      MindControl is also playing amazing, especially on Slardar, hitting multiple 3 man crushes almost every game.

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                                                      strategiccheese

                                                        Mind control and kpii are pretty good

                                                        Honestly I think zai is (at least was) the best offlaner hands down

                                                        FWB

                                                          yes Universe was the best offlaner (for me). But his performance were too damn bad when he joined Secret
                                                          P.S : Sorry for bad english

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                                                          Pessi

                                                            I agree with u @Suffered

                                                            Your Wife's Boyfriend

                                                              In the mind of someone who plays dota since 2014/2015:
                                                              Universe - best offlaner
                                                              Miracle - best mid
                                                              ppd - best support

                                                              No, but gotta say he is pretty good, mb the best in NA

                                                              omalley

                                                                Zai at the peak of secret was the most dominant offlaner. He completely took over games with minimal resources, and he did it often, something I haven't seen from any other offlaner. When bulldog takes over a game its because the team and draft has been built around him, creating space for him to farm or giving him a favourable lane. Zai created the space himself.

                                                                Pessi

                                                                  Universe - best offlaner (FACT)
                                                                  Miracle - best mid laner (FACT)
                                                                  ppd - best support LOL

                                                                  best support is Puppey
                                                                  wanna hear a fact again?
                                                                  best carry is Fear (he have so many exp in this game who play from Dota 1 until now, Dota 2)

                                                                  NB: sorry for bad english

                                                                  Mandalorian

                                                                    Best offlaner by far is Kumbomaman. Also TripleSteal at his peak was decent too. Idk about young prodigy Bogi and his brood, but i've heard he was raping 4k bracket at one point with it.

                                                                    Rocket

                                                                      Very difficult to compare bulldog to other offlaners because alliance give him more farm priority than most teams give their offlaner - hence his impact is automatically going to be higher than most offlaners.

                                                                      Not saying he isn't or is the best, just that he plays the offlaner differently to most.