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General DiscussionSupporting on Dota 2 will put your smurf to normal skill

Supporting on Dota 2 will put your smurf to normal skill in General Discussion
brad

    I've make this account and it actually get good results but when i played more supports it had put me on normal skill

    aaa

      It's about your KDA and Damage in game. dont play supports. Or if you have to, pick venomancer, ult and run away and dont die!

      ☻

        dota itself force people to play only carry and thats sucks

        Rocket

          Either that or you are shit at supporting ;-)

          Rocket

            It is actually reasonable that the system struggles more with rating support play rather than cores. Gpm/kda are a lot easier to measure than quality of warding/smoking etc.

            dead

              pretty sure i can make a new acc, play support only and get vhs easily
              stop spreading your bullshit, and just git gud

              Seven-

                ur all just looking for reasons so u dont have to admit ur bad :)

                StayFocused

                  dont spread this bs, role and skill bracket are irrelevant

                  Zen

                    Dota doesn't force you to play carries lmao, you just suck at supporting. Period.

                    Enough

                      Brad, I think you know very little about DotAbuff and what the criteria are being placed in a specific pool of players. You should 100% play more games and strive to improve performance, regardless of role. I can guarantee you that if you do things right, you won't be just "Normal Skill" by this site's standards.

                      Seven-

                        its another smurf from SEA what do u expect

                        evy

                          You're just bad and are trying to cheat your way to 3.5k which is easier to do by picking core
                          My last game I had an ogre who didnt even buy utility items at the start of the game, didnt get any fucking ward, fed and flames like a typical smurf and an enigma who farmed like an antimage and bought midas
                          Both were lvl 20
                          You're probably this kind of support and I fucking hope you calibrate where you belong
                          (If you're trying to tell me "boohoo ur lvl 20 smurf too" check my fucking ranked winrate and tell me do I deserve to be here or not)

                          evy

                            I bet you don't even know when is it good to single pull easy camp

                            Rocket

                              I'm sure op is just bad at supporting but IMO it is harder for valve to spot a support in the wrong bracket rather than a core. It's not like they will go 20-0-0 with 1000GPM

                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                definitely not, i've had smurfs where i instantly made them, played support and got placed in 4-5k avg matches after 2-3 matches.

                                you probably just suck shit at supporting

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                                Rocket

                                  Are you replying to me cookie cos it's a pointless inflammatory reply if so. It's self-evident that getting a computer to identify a decent carry is easier than a decent support. Most of the effect of a decent support appears in the stats of the cores.

                                  Yada!

                                    Yeah no. Tested with 3 accounts out of curiosity, and OPs observations cannot be generalised.

                                    I main support. When I was new to the game, I calibrated at 1k. 2nd account turned out to be 3k. 3rd reached 3.5k (after 7.03 patch). Thanks valve! I was consistently placed in VHS before that patch.

                                    BTC

                                      Generally speaking, of course you will be placed in Normal Skill because the nature of typical "support" (lower GPM, XPM, and KDA).

                                      ez Art

                                        Bws im curious about when it is good to single pool the easy camp

                                        dead

                                          ^nc name

                                          Ghost Of You

                                            ez u get very highskill, valve detect u not in expectation he lower it to high skill, then they lower u again maybe around 2.9-2.8 .maybe if u win 10 more game streak u get highskill back.

                                            ez Art

                                              Slayer69xx Search my nickname on a spanish dictionary which is my main lenguage (:.

                                              🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

                                                the reason that high mmr supports ARE high mmr is BECAUSE they make their TEAM play BETTER.

                                                not because they're good

                                                Lokieleven

                                                  Supporting while smurung ruins your smurf, that's why people don't support. But smurfing is dead so it does not matter anymore

                                                  Forseti

                                                    @986
                                                    > It's about your KDA and Damage in game. dont play supports. Or if you have to, pick venomancer, ult and run away and dont die!

                                                    There has to be something else that is very very very important. My KDA (5.5), gpm, xpm and hero damage is in most of my games way above average. My win rate (58%) isnt bad either and still i cant escape normal skill...

                                                    Spammed Necro with a high KDA and hero damage. My gpm and xpm wasnt very high though (~500ish) and i did little tower damage. Win rate was ok (55%). Couldnt get to HS so i figured i try Luna. Started to spam her and i have a high KDA, hero damage, gpm, xpm and tower damage, still cant get into hs. Win rate is 70%...

                                                    So whatever is so important to get into hs, i cant figure it out...

                                                    PS: opendota estimates my mmr sligthly above 3k.

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                                                    ImagineDodong

                                                      I'm not sure about that statement about DOTES forces people to only play carry tho seems pretty ridiculous, I also mostly play support when I started playing and when I calibrated it was 2.8k well its still normal skill tho hahaha, but you can get to higher bracket by playing support its possible.