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General Discussionhow good is shadowblade legion commander?

how good is shadowblade legion commander? in General Discussion
oof

    is it good enough to buy almost every game immediately before/after blink dagger?

    pros:
    early solo duel potential
    0 reaction time initiation
    purge dust/track from yourself
    silver edge

    cons:
    less reliable initiation
    delays blink-blademail timing

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      as good as unknown skill players
      cons
      cost more than blink
      pros
      attack speed and damage
      you can get attack speed and damage with just threads or whut

      Goblin slayer

        You should buy it after your phase boots, dagger and bm. And also, you need it before 30 mins and have atleast nearly 80 duel dmg.

        Its purpose is for solo pickoff and effectively roam faster. Having it early and having decent damage before sb(like 80+ duel dmg) will help you kill solo split pushers and afk junglers easily.

        You dont really need to hit him for the extra +175 backstab dmg if you're planning to kill heroes with reliable escape (AKA AM, Storm and other escape heroes) to duel the enemy hero right away. I

        Its better to find the right spot(like hiding in the trees or fog) than position yourself beside him. Why?
        Because if you find the right position, you can check if he had backup(assuming there are no sents) and precast your combo (Press the attack then Blademail in the trees then Blink to Duel) if you're against escape heroes.

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        CUTNPASTE

          If your opponents have split-push heroes that you need to pickoff it's a fine option after blademail.

          Pale Mannie

            i bump because i want to see what diox will write about it

            oof

              or youre playing against a hero that has a blink/aoe stun and if you are half of second late to duel you get rekd. so you duel out of invisibility so he doesnt have any time at all to possibly react to your blink.

              Sand1

                After blink its worth considering depending on the game

                Sand1

                  Before blink just Don't

                  bearcat0611

                    the downside to dueling right out of invis is that you won't be able to pta for the attack speed.

                    Karellen

                      That's not how dota works. One item does not apply to every situation.

                      If you buy blink on legion you're building wrong in like 10% of the games.

                      It depends on the game, the heroes, the situation.

                      1-IceTea 🌟

                        You either get early SB and sell it on late game for blink,or never get it

                        Gazz   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                          Get SB if you go 4-1-1-1 build. Backstab attack from sb + 1st = auto dead hero

                          oof

                            its like you get phase boots, after that either sb or blink, and later the other one (so now you have phase, sb, blink) unless you need blademail to kill people (there always are games when blademail doesnt actually help win duel, like vs tinker enigma, any suppert, etc; its just hard to actually duel these guys)...

                            or is that not legit

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                            dunce

                              sb lets u get past wards
                              good for initiation but dont get if if u dont need extra initiation
                              blink u are going to need in any case
                              -bsj yesterday

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                              Mr. Jin

                                If u form silver edge, it removes linken on hit.

                                also jdf8

                                  dont like it but sometimes its the game winner as a later pickup

                                  npc
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                                    Shou

                                      sb isn't that bad lategame, it can win u some fights especially if they don't expect it, and sometimes u need break.

                                      kormoranas

                                        i always buy shadow blade and have 60% win rate with legion, at 4600 mmr currently.
                                        it is mentioned correct, that it helps you solo pick of enemies. at the early levels, damage + attack speed is good enough buff to be able to solo duel kill most heroes, and i find blink very situational, only if enemy has gem.

                                        when playing with shadow blade, you just have to have common sense - do not go highground without vision, care to walk into traps etc, other than that its great item, great both for your farm and killing potential.

                                        菊花之茶

                                          sb > dagger for LC cause she is not an initiator for team fight
                                          sb > dagger for solo pickoffs
                                          get echo saber for huge first hit damage and the slow