General Discussionsimple double waving pattern

simple push pattern against 3k or below players seemsgood

this works against 5k+ players, i do it all the time, they just de-push it and bring the wave back to your tower. Oviously i don't play SF in 5k+, i do it with other heroes.

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no 5k+ invoker is ever gonna let you push wave that far, unless its his first time playing mid

invoker was just made as an dummy hero, doesn't really matter which hero was there.

also, do they even have a choice, or do they somehow plan to outpush an SF XD.

even if they have a counter nuker hero, there's still 30 seconds of downtime.

yeah dummy invo whos afk letting you "sustain" creeps waiting for second wave to push

do i look like i have perfect micro?

like i've said, i made that mistake at 8 minutes of just insatnly nuking hte wave, you wanna wait a bit before rightclicking it down and it'll be finely timed.

becuase your current wave, or at least half of it will match the next enemy wave as it enters the enemy tower.

Invoker also really is the only hero in meta who really has problems against fast waveclear in the beginning

yeah, if a 5k invoker played he wouldnt be afk and let you sustain wave for 30 seconds :D

like i've said, the hero was just a dummy, even if they have a counter push hero like Puck, there's still a 30 second downtime before the next next wave spawns and comes to lane.

you're not gonna be sustaining the first creepwave for 30 seconds, you're just gonna counter the enemy right clicks to keep the wave neutraly pushed for 5-10 seconds, then start pushing by rightclicks.

imagine invoker with alacrity and forge, no chance against pushing sf aight.

it may be efficent for sf, but it has no effect on invoker or his tower.

most players, even in 5k, are bad at LH under tower

and the invoker, like i've mentioned 50 times, is a dummy hero which can be replaced by any other X hero.

obviously specific heroes will have specific laning styles and the effect of this will be different depending on the hero.

but must i say again, this is very generalized and invoker is a dummy hero.

Very nice video, however Ive got a feeling that you forgot enemie midlaner can deny creeps which ruin the timings.

you're just gonna counter the enemy right clicks to keep the wave neutraly pushed for 5-10 seconds, then start pushing by rightclicks.

unless you want yourself to get solokilled lul

Yeah there's some interesting points there actually,
Nice video
(I dont really think that pattern is always bad, as a hero like sf you tend to be an easy target for ganks and its hard to lane vs an invo. So you dont want to spend too much time in lane where its unsafe, i think for other heroes there is more value in controlling the wave and shutting an opposing midlaner down, i think maybe you should add a bit more clarity to when the first pattern is good)

zuus, i'm not talking about rightclicking the enemy hero, i mean the creeps.

@Klonu wouldn't really matter, the push pattern is mostly level bound, so getting your levels delayed a minute or so won't make too much of a difference.

@Flaxen i made it generalized, didn't go into when to use it, but rather just how to use it and what are it's effects.

and besides, this is mostly tailored for the lower brackets (0-4k) as a ''if given the choice, take it as a 1# efficiency option"

right clicks to keep the wave neutraly pushed for 5-10 seconds

then start pushing by rightclicks.

fine, let me re-word:

if the enemy hits a creep, you hit one of his creeps 1-2 times for each time he hits yours, so that the wave's equilibrium stays around neutral or a bit in your favor, then after a certain amount of time you want to go full out on pushing it with right clicks.

I remember when kill enemy mid 1v1 was a thing,was a fun,aegis ago

for me ,under tower is not problem at alll ,its much safe
i think its bad u have low chance to kill enemie literarky free exp when u can get souls with sf and make u lvl 6 enemie lvl 4

idc laning phase

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EDIT:
Holy shit what a worthless video. You literally give the enemy the oportunity to get creep equalibrium on his side and make u so fucking easy to gank and fail mid to the point where u're useless.

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You literally give the enemy the oportunity to get creep equalibrium on his side and make u so fucking easy to gank and fail mid to the point where u're useless.

danish u rly are son of a bitch everytime

indeed this works, will help a lot people who didnt knew about this patern

shit video but i just love the way u say "creepwave" id like a 1 hour version if possible

danishbitch do you ever win mid? i have nothing special to say about the guide , i mean its good, but its prety basic.

how about a triple, quadruple, 10 waving pattern and so on? how do u do it?

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jokes on you, i actually know how to triple-quad wave with some heroes in some scenarios.

bullshit

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triple as tinker u could do , naga also , but as quarduple

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