Its a higher winrate because almost everybody rushes pike early, but only goes for aghs very late when they're well farmed.
no i dont think that's the reason. people just go pike most of the time and skip aghs .
and if u do go aghs late, and winning more as a result, it's basically saying enchantress is stronger late game. which i dont think is true
It doesn't matter how well a hero performs in the late game, early core items will always have a lower winrate attached than situational luxury items. Ench will usually have a pike even if they're getting wrecked since they usually get it after drums if even that, they're likely not even considering aghs if they're far behind.
ok i misunderstood what you were saying potato fukhed. so should you just go aghs + pike every game? think pike without aghs is the problem. if you go aghs, you're likely to have gone pike as well.
but why do ppl usually just not go aghs at all?
and if you had to choose either one (say you dont have the window or farm to go both), aghs seems better?
There is literally no reason to go aghs over pike on ench. You're sacrificing better stats, better build up, and a very powerful defensive and offensive active that perfectly synergizes with your ult for 50 attack range.
well let's say you take item order out of the equation. i have a feeling going aghs over pike would see a higher winrate still. i think for the cost of hurricane pike, and at <20min in the game, for what it gives you it's not as good. pike is stronger late game
agha is the worst Item on ench you could buy. All you need is Pike, some defensive items mana Reg and Hex for late.
Im pretty sure just going off dotabuff winrates on items the only way to play ench is to rush skadi (72.22% winrate) and follow it up with an urn recipe (100% winrate). Don't get boots they have an abysmal 36.66 winrate.
pike adds mobility, the amount of value of that fact depends on the player and the game. imo 90% of games it will do more for you than aghs
aghs is not useless but i dont think ive ever seen anyone having aghs without getting pike earlier, nor did ot myself
I'm well aware of the pitfalls of item winrates you cucks!!!
But aghs is one of the most bought items on enchantress so you should pay attention to the winrate!!!
The question is if aghs is really bought as a luxury item when it is one of the most commonly bought. We can all ignore luxury item winrates. But if it's bought as a core item before pike then maybe there's something more going on here.
no its not
pike is about 400gold mroe expensive. compared to aghs it is:
-75hp
-50 attack range
+2 armor
+10as
+39mana
+0,3%spell amp
+slightly better hp+mana regen
+the active
i dont see any reason to buy aghs before pike
The only time I see non-garbage players go aghs before pikes are high level players dicking around who can finish both items in like 25 minutes.
Who you trying to kid. You may have a legend medal but you're still in normal skill in solo ranked. Git gud Son.
Lets all take the moment here and congratulate Potato on finaly reaching that blue star! MLG Horns in the chat boys! \o/
@han
these normal skill games are party ranked. dotabuff doesnt show that if the game is not analyzed by the truesight thing
in case you wanna go serious about that go check the normal skill games and find Ixeee, Arta, ReD, grandpa and some others in almost every game.
my solo is 3.5, party 2.5
edit: or just compare the stats with opendota i guess
https://www.opendota.com/players/319549325/matches
The hansolo in the herald bracket was not this toxic, this guy is not even worth defending for all the stupid shit he says now! Fuck
but at least blunt is angry
thats not a thing that is happening but an inherent part of his existence apparently
well im not in the herald bracket anymore. i've evolved because i've decided that ive had enough of everyone's bullshit. im going to prove that i have just as much knowledge and skill in this game as any 5k
Why make this thread when you clearly prefer one choice and are disregarding any arguments against it while clinging onto your shit argument like it's you life's work.
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aghs or pike?
general convention is to go for pike because of utility. but if u look at the winrate, aghs seems to be superior