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General Discussionwhat's venge strong point ?

what's venge strong point ? in General Discussion
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    maybe this is noob question but i do really want to know why this hero really strong in every bracket ?
    what's your opinion ?

    me myself didnt see her as OP heroes

    The Future Looked Bright

      I think a lot of it comes from her decent laning phase with wave of terror.

      As you approach the mid game, her ultimate places enemies out of position and isolates them.

      And, to top it all off, when she dies, she doesn't really die. She debuffs the enemy, damages the enemy, and, with aghs, can cast her spells as normal.

      Lesbolas

        The same reason that makes drow a strong pick but is a support whit a good stun and a unique ulti.
        The damage aura fits well whit the early meta of 2-1-2.

        CoL.Limmp

          Swap ,aura

          KazeGagne

            Being able to swap out the enemy core into your entire team from such great distance can make your sacrifice game winning. Especially if you can get out alive too. And being able to stun the backline when you swap in can set up for further engagement.

            Tobirama

              i play lot of venge, and it seems that venge doesnot really need items to be effective yet can turn farm into huge advantage, aether lens is huge waste imo, carry build is not viable cuz venge wastes so much time farming, istead she should roam around and make use of her 2nd and 3rd, her W is a very beautiful skill. i take 15 magic resistance talent and buy pipe, after that i go as a shield for my team, imo even combo skills wont cost your health at that point. CM with 15 kill is useless compared to even unfarmed, 0 kill and few assist venge, her talents make her very comfortable. dont take + 15 agility talent, its useless, instead take talent that makes u spam your W every 4 sec, i stack multiple camps at the same time using my W i make my cores farm more than anyone on map, its my favorite skill maaan

              `Scorpio'M

                I am currently spamming venge, strong hero indeed but looks like her winrates fall off a bit at archon and above still relatively high tho.

                Nemesis

                  As a fellow noob... Venge is good in 3K and below because 1: very good stun. And stuns are king in low bracket. 2: she scales really well. If I pick her I do it as support (buy all the wards). But she can easily turn into an extra carry the longer game last. She can build basically any item and it be useful. After boots you have infinite options. Drums, force (later into pike), medallion into solar crest, hood, deso, sny, really isn’t a bad item. She’s even a good aura carrier. You can go like vlads, drum, pipe. Even build helm if you wish. It don’t really matter. Below 3k any item is beneficial on her cause her stat gain is so strong.

                  arin

                    enables a lot of heroes, scales, versatile

                    despair

                      Play her as pos 4, aura item carrier, works well especially in drow strats

                      arin

                        also people found out that you can dish out tons of damage with maxing wave first

                        vi

                          scaling damage increase aura, armor reduction, low cd single target stun, unparalleled ability to change enemy position as well as create long range pick-offs or insane saves for team with proper vision (lvl 3 ult + lens is REALLY long range).
                          wave's armor reduction, her naturally quick attack animation + damage bonus makes for strong lane support.
                          flexibility of her kit that allows her to be played as 4 or 5 just as well (or 1/2 if you want).

                          Totentanz to The King: M ...

                            She enables your team to do insane damage

                            Gazz   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

                              She push very well especially with summoned units (e.g. lycan, visage, chen, etc)

                              Feachairu

                                1 swap=1 batrider/1 meathook | 1 earthspirit lvl 25/1 meathook/1 relocate save

                                conclusion: buy refresher on venge

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                                Metsis

                                  What most of you dont seem to realize is that her right click is like the one on Oracle. She hits faster than most other heroes and thus she can harrass really well even with the short range. And the stun is really good value and the aura is priceless. Just get Vlads to even more amp it up and watch the enemy fall. If you have a decent team, the nether swap can be a powerful tool, but you can also kill your self with it as well. I remember the games with Luna, Drow auras on top the Venge one and hittin for 140 damage on lvl 3. Throw a little minus armor on that and there isnt a hero that can deal with that in the game. She is very solid. There is no obvious weakness or a special need for her to get going and this is why she is a solid first pick material in the pro circuit. She can play multiple roles and doesnt need much farm.

                                  arin

                                    but oracle's right click is complete garbage

                                    severe

                                      it feels like sandking replacement a bit, good in lane, nice stun, good for rosh, aura is good, good ult for getting hg

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                                      arin

                                        i wonder why sk suddenly disappeared though
                                        is it just because other heroes are better?

                                        Lruce Bee

                                          have u tried going on a venge? yea big mistake.

                                          Shou

                                            a lot of heroes seemed to dissappear for no reason, without any nerfs and shit idek

                                            A

                                              Well i see that all his skill is pretty useful
                                              I tried venge once and his aura is realy amazing
                                              And his aghanim too

                                              So my question
                                              What skill should i max her first
                                              Skill 1 skill 2 or skill 3?

                                              severe

                                                wave first