General DiscussionDoes tinker really require nerfing?

people figured out how to play him

no mana blink helped alot too.

nerf? heavens forbid.
they need to add 20/30/40/50% slow on march too compensate his lack of escape mechanics.

6.82
* March of the Machines deal mini bashes while taking damage periodically

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* Chronosphere cooldown reduced from 120/100/80 to 70

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* Eye of the Storm duration increased from 30 to 30/40/50

legit, I approve

that would be the greatest patch ever!

Tinker has always been retardedly strong...people just finally started abusing him >.>

Speaking of Tinker aghs, is it ever worth getting on tinker?

i get it against meepo but w/e i still get raped

If for some reason-no.

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* Doom Bringer can now cast his doom 5 times, than it goes on CD.
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* Concussive shot is now a global point-activate ability.
* Mystic flare mana cost removed.

he's op because march of the machines is stupid. it's good for farming, pushing, anti-pushing, killing heroes, zoning etc. basically takes a retard with 2 braincells to spam some marches and either you have to get out or take 600 damage

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* Added Death Prophet Aghanim's Scepter upgrade - Exorcism is now permanent.

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* bogi MMR reduced from 4.5k to 4k

@america
dafuq permanent exorcism, BM will be core XD

He won't get really great nerf IMO. Some slight nerfs probably he is like #10 pick/ban.

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Drow Ranger Marksmanship gain increased from 40/60/80 to 322/420/1337
Marksmanship agility bonus now doubles instead of being disabled at close range.
BAT improved to 0.001

@Dipshit

He wasn't retarded strong after the bkb/linken no longer rearmed
And before the removal of undiscovered fog (which allow him to blink in tree)

Ok..so only slightly retarded with the whole you know...hex ethereal dagon rearm repeat ad infinitum counter everyone trollololol build.

Nerf his damn rearm so it has a cooldown of 45/30/15. I'll be happy. And no I don't care if it completely breaks the hero. I was tired of tinker before he became popular as all hell >.> can we go back to pre 6.81 where he was in the bottom like 15 of most played?

Buy a BKB and he can't do anything? Yeah because losing half your HP just trying to bypass march is "nothing".

storm isnt that great a pick against tinker tbh, tinker vs storm mid is at least 65-35 i think

Oh dam I forgot about bkb, forgot they buffed it to 100% uptime no downtime always ready for tinker.

I dont think tinker is OP but everytime i say something about it someone flames me and calls me 3k trash so ....

You're right, because tinker can't make your supports disappear in an instant and get out scot-free. Tinkers always initiate from within vision and never blink on you from the fog in an unexpected moment. Clearly tinker is the worst hero in the game and is the main reason why he is virtually never picked in pro games. I mean #15 top pick/ban before TI, #10 afterwards, clearly a non-issue since he isn't #1.

His competitive winrate is actually quite meh, he takes the farm of a carry to come online but still dies really fucking easy at late game.

there havent been many changes to the hero itself so what made him popular recently?

so he's always been good, just that people didn't realise until they actually played him

ure probably right but i feel like as long tinker has 1k~ networth advantage that tinker gets in lane be it either by laser hsm kills or march farming (which he should i think) and if the team has some ability to tower push + teamfight all tinker needs to do is just get some mp items to spam march behind and storm cant do anything to jump him or anyone else for that matter
just basically play tinker as the 5 man push style rather than split farm

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tinker rearm manacost now 275/500/675

nerfing without destroying the hero.

People started abusing him since TI4 after seeing his potential. Yet tinker is squishy and too much farms and items dependent. He got a pathetic overall win rate (46.54%). The hero is balanced, no nerf is necessary.

Just nerf the fuck out of all his stats gain so he remains even easier to kill during the early and mid stages of the game. Nerf base magic resistance as well.

He farms like fuck anyway, so he's going to get his stats items sooner or later, then once people have stopped picking him to ruin your game by being useless buff him again but don't mention it in the changelog.

oo look a retarded smurf who picked tinker trying to defend it, how shocking

BKB makes tinker 'useless' rofl

Repeated nerfs to Batrider and illusion heroes make Tinker progressively better I think.

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*removed Tinker

rofl here comes the mmr flaunting with no screenshots, fuking tinker pickers when will they learn

I had an 18% winrate with Tinker before he got popular, now...
It's not just that he's easy to play with and win, I just like splitpushing in general

yea because if you're a Tinker player then you can't argue about Tinker AWESOME LOGIC regulator

he's got below 3 KDA on all the non OP heroes i think that explains everything, and if you're a tinker picker you're more likely to get defensive about this like you just did for example

everyone else notice that these tinker pickers are all smurfs who play like 100 games of tinker straight and once they hit ranked they try and hide it by picking low impact heroes after